Bottom Line

Resemblance not ≠ copy-paste. The temple’s doctrinal frame and purpose remain distinct.

Podcast Radio Free Mormon (RFM)
Episode The Trouble With Temples
Title “The exact same Five Points of Fellowship — including whisper ‘through the veil.’”
Category Temple / Masonry / Ritual Posture
Quote “We did exactly this… it was called the five points of fellowship… [and] through the veil… whispered in your ear…”
Core Claim Shared posture + whisper proves direct ritual transplant from Masonry into the temple.
Conclusion Partial Truth → Overreach
Logical Questions
  • Does posture similarity entail identity of meaning, purpose, and theology?
  • What about documented ancient Christian circle/embrace prayer precedents?

🔍 Core Rebuttal

Historic overlaps in posture existed, but LDS sources frame the endowment’s covenantal, Christ-centered aims — not fraternal ethics. Latter-day Saint prayer circles and veil symbolism operate within a creation-fall-Atonement-ascent narrative foreign to Masonic goals. Responsible comparisons weigh both similarities and differences; “exactly” overstates and collapses categories.

Key Points

  • Ritual forms can converge across traditions; theological cores may diverge sharply.
  • LDS materials acknowledge contact with Masonry while rejecting simple imitation.

📚 Sources