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Faith and Honesty: What do the Facts Demand?

Faith and Honesty: What do the Facts Demand?

April 2026

Dr Michael Coe on Book of Mormon Archaeology: The Complete Two-Part Analysis — Where He’s Decisive, Where LDS Scholarship Pushes Back, and What Honesty Demands of Both Sides

In April 2026, renewed interest in Book of Mormon archaeology has brought fresh attention to two landmark interviews with DDrMichael D. Coe, Yale’s leading Maya archaeologist.

Together, these interviews form one of the most sustained external scholarly critiques of Book of Mormon historicity. More importantly, they reveal where Coe is decisive, where LDS scholarship pushes back, and where the evidence remains genuinely contested.

Those two-part analyses examine every major claim with balance, clarity, and intellectual honesty.

In Memoriam — Dr Drchael D. Coe (1929–2019)

Dr Drhael Coe passed away in September 2019 at age 90. He was the Charles J. MacCurdy Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at Yale, curator emeritus of the Peabody Museum, and one of the preeminent Mayanists of the 20th century. His Breaking the Maya Code was nominated for a National Book Award. His book The Maya reached a ninth edition.

He reviewed Thomas Stewart Ferguson’s pro–Book of Mormon monograph and authored the 1973 Dialogue article on Book of Mormon archaeology. And he also maintained a professional relationship with John Sorenson, the pro-Book-of-Mormon author of the American Antiquity monograph.

Importantly, Coe was not anti-Mormon. He consistently expressed admiration for Joseph Smith’s achievement, maintained warm friendships with LDS scholars, and closed both interviews by advising believing members to stay in their faith if it made their lives better. This analysis honours him by engaging his arguments seriously.

About These Two Episodes

Part I (Ep. 2141 — originally 2011): The foundational three-part audio interview covering the full scope of Book of Mormon archaeological claims — animal anachronisms, metals, language, DNA, the Joseph Smith context, the Quetzalcoatl narrative, chiasmus, and personal advice to believing Mormons. Coe also discusses Mormon archaeologist Thomas Stewart Ferguson’s loss of faith and his own relationships with LDS scholars.

Part II (Ep. 2142 — originally 2018): A video follow-up at Coe’s Yale home. Focused on three areas: (1) what LiDAR technology has revealed about Mesoamerican civilisation and whether it corroborates Book of Mormon claims; (2) a direct response to the open letter FAIR Mormon and John Sorenson published after the 2011 interview; and (3) updated views on the limited geography model and DNA evidence.

How this analysis is structured: Every section is rated on a two-sided scale — where Coe is decisively right, where LDS scholarship has genuine responses, and where the question is genuinely contested. Labels from Part I and Part II are noted so readers can follow the source. Neither side gets a free pass. Tags indicate which interview each claim comes from: Part I, Part II, Both.

Where Coe Is Decisive, Both Interviews

Strongest Argument — From Both Interviews

Thousands of Maya inscriptions spanning 1,500 years contain zero Hebrew, Aramaic, or Egyptian — the writing is entirely Native American Maya.

Coe’s Most Decisive Point

“We can read almost everything — 95% of what follows the dates on these inscribed monuments. What language is this in? It’s in Maya. Not only Maya — there are 29 extant Maya languages… There are no Semitic words whatsoever in it. It has no relation whatsoever with any languages we know of in the Old World.”
—Dr. Michael Coe, Part I (2011), ~01:01:30

About that, this is Coe’s strongest argument—and it is difficult to dismiss.

Linguistic Evidence

The Maya writing system has been largely deciphered and is now well understood. It records the Ch’orti’ Maya language, which is still spoken today. Linguists worldwide have analyzed thousands of inscriptions—on monuments, ceramics, and codices—have been analyzed by linguists worldwide by linguistics.

Crucially, none contain Hebrew, Aramaic, Egyptian, or any Near Eastern linguistic influence.

The Olmec Case

In addition, the Olmec — sometimes proposed by some LDS scholars as the Jaredites — left behind the Cascajal Block, the only known Olmec inscription. Coe co-published this discovery. It is entirely Native American in character. In contrast, the Book of Mormon describes a literate Near Eastern civilisation maintaining records in a Near Eastern language for 1,000 years in the Americas. Researchers have never found any trace of that language tradition has ever been found anywhere across Mesoamerica.

Geographic Implications

In Part I, Coe noted this point with BYU linguist Robertson in mind: Robertson himself worked on Maya decipherment and could not produce Old World linguistic parallels. In Part II, Coe returned to this when responding to Sorenson’s open letter, noting that Sorenson’s reference to Brian Stubs finding Semitic influence in Uto-Aztecan languages is disputed and entirely outside Robertson’s Maya speciality.

Geographically, the Maya lowlands, where LDS scholars most often place the Book of Mormon — the Maya lowlands —have the most thoroughly documented language record, and it is wholly non-Semitic.

Assessment: Coe Has the Stronger Argument — By a Significant Margin

Fifteen centuries of deciphered, peer-reviewed Maya writing contains no Hebrew or Egyptian influence. No LDS scholar has produced peer-reviewed evidence of Near Eastern language in Mesoamerican inscriptions. This is the hardest single fact for Book of Mormon Mesoamerican historicity to account for.

Second Strongest — From Both Interviews

No pre-Columbian horses, cattle, chariots, steel weapons, wheat, barley, or silk have ever been found — and pollen studies conclusively rule out Old World grain.ns

Archaeological Consensus

“I can tell you that huge amounts of excavations all through the New World have been made over the last hundred years. Nobody has ever found a cowbone in a pre-Columbian site. Period. Not one pig bone has ever shown up. Horses disappeared by 7,000 BC. Chariots — zero.”
— Dr Michael Coe, Part I (2011), ~00:43:43–01:30:19

Archaeological Absence

The Book of Mormon mentions many animals, like horses, cattle, oxen, donkeys, goats, sheep, swine, and elephants. Also mentions instruments and supplies like chariots, steel swords, shields, wheat, barley, and silk as features of Nephite and Jaredite civilisation. Meanwhile, the archaeological record of Mesoamerica contains none of these in the relevant time periods.

Pollen Evidence

Even more decisively, pollen evidence is exceptionally strong. Wheat and barley, if grown, would have produced windblown pollen preserved in lake sediments. Palynologists (pollen scientists) have drilled lake beds across Mesoamerica for decades. Researchers have never found wheat or barley pollen in pre-Spanish sediments.

Rather than an absence of excavation, it is a direct scientific test that fails. Steel and iron, even if rusted, would leave chemical traces that modern methods can detect by modern methods. Archaeologists have found none in the relevant contexts. Gold and copper do not appear in Mesoamerica until roughly 700–800 AD, after the Book of Mormon narrative ends.

LDS Response: Loan-Shift Theory

Where LDS scholarship has a partial response: The “loan-shift” argument — that the English translation may use familiar words for unfamiliar animals (e.g. “horse” for tapir, “chariot” for litter) — has genuine linguistic precedent. The Aztecs called Spanish horses “deer that people ride.” FAIR LDS documents multiple historical examples of this phenomenon. And some LDS scholars note that BYU archaeologist John Clark has documented possible pre-Columbian horse remains in Yucatán caves, though the dates remain disputed.

However, Coe’s response was direct: you can’t twist language indefinitely. If “sword” means obsidian club, and “horse” means tapir, and “chariot” means carrying platform and “steel” means something else entirely, the text loses its predictive power. The cumulative weight of multiple simultaneous loan-shift explanations strains credibility even if each explanation is linguistically possible.

Assessment: Coe Stronger on the Core Facts — LDS Loan-Shift Argument Has Limited Linguistic Merit
Individual loan-shift explanations are linguistically defensible in principle. Requiring them simultaneously for horses, chariots, steel, wheat, barley, and silk is a different matter. Even more importantly, pollen evidence alone is a direct scientific test that fails, not merely an absence of excavation.

Third Strongest — Both Interviews

DNA evidence points exclusively to Central and East Asian origins — no pre-Columbian Native Americans show Near Eastern ancestry

Genomic Consensus

“The DNA all points to Central and East Asia, where these people came from, not to the Near East. Absolutely not.”
— Dr Michael Coe, Part II (2018), ~01:44:09

DNA Evidence

The scientific consensus on Native American origins is robust and has been strengthened since 2018 by ancient DNA studies. Pre-Columbian Native Americans — including skeletal remains from underwater Yucatán caves dated to well before the Book of Mormon period — descend from populations that crossed the Bering land bridge from Northeast Asia. No pre-Columbian DNA sample from anywhere in the Americas has shown Near Eastern, Middle Eastern, or Mediterranean ancestry.

Church Response

The Church’s own Gospel Topics Essay on DNA and the Book of Mormon acknowledges this directly and responds that Lehi’s group may have been too small to leave a detectable genetic signature. This uses legitimate population genetics — small immigrant groups can be absorbed into larger populations without leaving detectable traces. However, it requires the same “small population” reasoning used for linguistics, and creates the same tension with Book of Mormon population descriptions of armies numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

Assessment: Coe Correct — Church’s Own Essay Acknowledges the Problem
The genomic evidence for Asian (not Near Eastern) Native American origins is one of the most robust findings in modern science. The Church’s acknowledged response requires significant reinterpretation of how Joseph Smith and subsequent prophets identified Lamanites.

Where the Evidence Is Genuinely Contested, Both Interviews

Contested Claim 1

Chiasmus in the Book of Mormon — a 19th-century author familiar with the KJV Bible could easily have produced it.

Genuinely Contested

“The Book of Mormon is to me a recreation of the language of the Old Testament as in the King James Bible… you find the same kind of thing there. Poetry is found all around the world. It doesn’t prove the Book of Mormon.”
— Dr Michael Coe, Part I (2011), ~02:13:18

Chiasmus — a Hebrew literary structure in which a passage’s elements are repeated in reverse order — appears extensively throughout the Book of Mormon. LDS scholars, particularly John Welch, have documented complex chiastic structures that they argue are too sophisticated and numerous to have occurred by chance. Scholars first identified chiasmus in the Book of Mormon by Welch in 1967 — well after Joseph Smith’s death — suggesting he could not have deliberately inserted it as a forgery signal.

Coe acknowledged chiasmus exists in Mesoamerican literature (including the Popol Vuh) and throughout world poetry generally, and noted the King James Bible contains extensive parallel and chiastic structures that Joseph Smith knew intimately. He is right that chiasmus is not unique to the Book of Mormon. But the LDS argument is more specific: the Book of Mormon contains large-scale, multi-element chiastic structures that are characteristic of Hebrew composition but unlikely to arise spontaneously in 19th-century American writing.

Both sides have a point. The debate continues in peer-reviewed venues and has not been resolved.

Assessment: Genuinely Contested — Both Sides Have Legitimate Points

Chiasmus is neither a decisive proof of ancient authorship nor easily dismissed. It is one of the most interesting textual features of the Book of Mormon, and merits continued scholarly attention from both directions.

Contested Claim 2

LiDAR findings in Mesoamerica corroborate Book of Mormon descriptions of roads, fortifications, and large populations.

LDS Apologists Overreached — But Coe Understated What LiDAR Reveals

“I’m not thinking about the Book of Mormon [when reviewing LiDAR]. I’m thinking about my archaeology… LiDAR has not shown dense urbanisation like an Old World city. To call them cities is an exaggeration.”
—Dr. Michael Coe, Part II (2018), ~00:19:44

LDS blogger Kirk Magleby’s February 2018 article — which Dehlin read to Coe in detail — did overreach significantly. Claiming that LiDAR’s discovery of roads, fortifications, and settlement patterns constitutes specific proof of Book of Mormon historicity conflates generic civilisational features with specific textual predictions. Coe’s pushback on this was warranted.

Where Coe somewhat understated his case, LiDAR has genuinely revealed that Mesoamerican civilisation during the Book of Mormon time period was more complex and populous than previously understood. The El Mirador basin in Guatemala shows evidence of one of the largest pre-Columbian cities in the Americas, with a pyramid larger by volume than any Egyptian pyramid, dated to approximately 300 BC–150 AD — directly within Nephite narrative time periods. Coe himself had confirmed that morning (before the interview) that LiDAR had found previously unknown fortifications in northern Guatemala.

The honest framing: LiDAR found things consistent with large-scale civilisation during the right time period in the right geographic area. It did not find specifically Nephite culture — no inscriptions, no identifiable religious structures, no Old World cultural markers. Consistency is not confirmation.

Assessment: Both Sides Overstated — The Honest Answer Is “Consistent But Not Confirmatory”
LiDAR reveals a Mesoamerican world during Book of Mormon time periods that is more complex than previously understood — not proof, but not nothing. LDS apologists claimed proof they don’t have. Coe downplayed findings he acknowledged in private that same morning.

Contested Claim 3

The “limited geography / small population” model is not a scientific argument — it makes the Book of Mormon unfalsifiable.

Falsifiability Concern Valid — But Model Uses Real Science

“They must have been totally transparent because they do not affect anything else. Nobody’s ever seen them… you’re making up a new piece of mythology… If it’s so small, you need quantum physics to find these people.”
— Dr Michael Coe, Part II (2018), ~01:52:28

Coe’s falsifiability concern is real and important. Karl Popper’s principle — that scientific hypotheses must be capable of being disproved — is foundational to scientific reasoning. If a theory can explain any evidence (or absence of evidence) by making its target population infinitely small, it becomes scientifically untestable. Coe was right to identify this pattern in how some apologists respond to every challenge.

Where LDS scholarship has a genuine point: The small-population argument is not invented mythology — it is standard population genetics. Small immigrant groups do get genetically and linguistically absorbed into larger existing populations. The Viking settlement at L’Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland — which Coe himself visited — lasted only a couple of years yet left detectable archaeological evidence precisely because it was eventually excavated after decades of targeted searching. Scholars developed the limited geography model from internal textual analysis, not invented to escape criticism.

The honest tension: the model does use legitimate science, but it requires abandoning Joseph Smith’s own and all subsequent prophets’ identification of Native Americans broadly as Lamanite descendants — a high theological cost that LDS scholars acknowledge.

Assessment: The Falsifiability Concern Is Legitimate — But “Mythology” Is Too Strong
Small-population population genetics is real science, not invented mythology. The falsifiability concern is genuine: a theory that explains all absent evidence by making the group invisible cannot be tested — and that is a real problem for scientific dialogue.

Where LDS Scholarship Has the Stronger Response Part I Primarily

LDS Stronger Response 1

Quetzalcoatl was the “great white god” — a record of Christ’s New World visit described in the Book of Mormon.

Coe Correct — But LDS Scholarship Has Moved Beyond This

“This whole idea of white people coming to the new world is basically made out of whole cloth — propaganda first set up by the Spaniards, then picked up by European racists.”
— Dr Michael Coe, Part I (2011), ~01:17:28

Coe is largely correct about the Quetzalcoatl narrative. The “great white god” identification was substantially constructed by Spanish conquistadors seeking to portray Cortez as a returning deity to ease the conquest, not by pre-Columbian peoples as a religious tradition. Researchers have fully deciphered the Temple of the Cross: it depicts King K’an B’alam’s dynastic succession, with no reference to Christ, Hebrew figures, or any Old World religious tradition.

Where this actually points LDS scholarship forward:

Modern LDS apologetics has substantially moved away from the Quetzalcoatl argument. The New World Archaeological Foundation — founded by Thomas Stewart Ferguson and supported by the Church — conducted serious scientific archaeology in Chiapas for decades and found no such evidence.

Contemporary LDS scholars at FAIR and the Interpreter Foundation rarely lead with Quetzalcoatl precisely because Coe’s type of critique has been internalised. The Church’s Gospel Topics Essays do not mention Quetzalcoatl. This is an argument where Coe won, and LDS scholarship has largely conceded the ground.

Assessment: Coe Correct — But the Best LDS Scholarship Has Moved Past This

The Quetzalcoatl-as-Christ argument has been largely abandoned by serious LDS scholars. Coe is right to dismiss it. This is a case where archaeological honesty has improved the quality of both secular and faithful scholarship.

LDS Stronger Response 2

There is nothing the Book of Mormon could have predicted that wouldn’t have been known to a well-read 19th-century American.

Incomplete — Book Contains Features Coe Did Not Engage

“If you really knew the Old Testament, all those things Book of Mormon apologists come up with — they’re all in the Old Testament, every single one of them… He had an incredible brain.”
—Dr. Michael Coe, Part I (2011), ~02:17:17

Coe’s 19th-century composition theory — that Joseph Smith synthesised the King James Bible, mound builder mythology, Ethan Smith’s View of the Hebrews, the racial theories of his day, and his own imagination — is historically well-grounded and serious. Much of the Book of Mormon’s structure does map onto identifiable 19th-century sources and concerns.

Where this argument is incomplete:

The Book of Mormon contains features that are genuinely difficult to explain by 19th-century composition alone. The Nahom/NHM discovery — three altars dated to the 7th–6th centuries BCE found by non-LDS German archaeologists in Yemen, corresponding to the location where Nephi says Ishmael was buried — was not known in 1830 and was not discoverable from any available map or text of the period.

The complex chiasmic structures discussed above were unknown to Western scholars until 1967. The Book of Mormon’s conspicuous absence of distinctively Mesoamerican features (chocolate, turkeys, jaguars, Maya writing) — which Coe himself raised — is also awkward for a 19th-century composition theory: why would someone imagining an elaborate ancient American civilisation leave out these things?

Coe did not engage Nahom in either interview. It is not a decisive proof, but it is a feature of the text that the 19th-century composition hypothesis handles poorly.

Assessment: LDS Scholarship Has Genuine Responses, Coe Did Not Engage

The Nahom discovery and complex chiasmus represent features of the Book of Mormon that the 19th-century composition hypothesis cannot easily explain. Coe’s argument is strong but not complete. Both sides have unexplained features.

What Coe Said That Most People Never Quote Both Interviews

Most Overlooked Statement — Part I

Coe on Joseph Smith: “I think he was one of the greatest men who ever lived… an incredible genius… I think at the end he truly believed it”

✓ Profound Nuance — Rarely Quoted

“I think Joseph Smith was not only one of the greatest Americans who ever lived, but I think he was one of the greatest men who ever lived… If it’s a work of fiction, nobody has ever done anything like this before. And I think it is fiction — but he really carried it through, and my respect for him is unbounded.”
—Dr. Michael Coe, Part I (2011), ~02:15:37 and PBS documentary

Those who deploy Coe’s arguments against the Book of Mormon rarely quote his extraordinary assessment of Joseph Smith himself. Coe consistently — in both interviews, in the PBS documentary, and in his 1973 Dialogue article — expressed deep admiration for Smith.

He compared him to shamans and prophets across history who begin with what may be performance, accumulate followers, and ultimately come to genuinely believe their own revelations. Coe said he believed Joseph Smith was “willing to sacrifice his life for it, which is the ultimate test.” He did not call Smith a con man or a liar; he called him a genius.

This nuance matters for how truth seekers receive Coe’s critique. He is not saying Joseph Smith was corrupt or malicious. He is saying the Book of Mormon is the product of one of the most remarkable minds in American history, working in a specific cultural moment, producing something extraordinary — whether or not it is what it claims to be. That is a more honest and more interesting argument than “it’s a fraud.”

A Point the Episode Does Not Dwell On

The world’s leading Maya archaeologist called Joseph Smith one of the greatest men who ever lived. That assessment deserves to be heard alongside his archaeological critique.

Most Overlooked Closing Statement — Both Interviews

Coe’s closing advice: “If this makes your life better — for God’s sake, don’t leave it. I would never criticise that.”

✓ Buried by Both Interviews — Essential Context

“If you believe that the Mormon religion gives you a set of values that you and your children and grandchildren can profit by — for God’s sake, don’t leave it… Don’t hang everything on the truthfulness or untruthfulness of that document, because in the long run you’ll be sorry.”
— Dr Michael Coe, Part II (2018), ~02:34:17

Both interviews — presented by Dehlin as potentially the most faith-challenging in Mormon Stories history — end with Coe giving essentially the same compassionate advice: the archaeological and historical questions about the Book of Mormon are separable from the question of whether LDS faith produces good human lives. He drew this distinction explicitly in Part I (“render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s”) and again in Part II.

His concern was never with the faith itself — it was with the anti-science epistemology of Mormon apologetics, and with the racist implications of the Lamanite narrative as historically transmitted. On the faith as a way of life, he was genuinely respectful. In Part I, he explicitly recommended that members could become “cultural Mormons” — embracing LDS values and community without requiring literal historical accuracy. He cited Darwin as someone who lost religious faith but lived a deeply moral life, suggesting the same is possible for Mormons.

Presenting Coe’s interviews as simple demolitions of LDS faith misrepresents his actual position.

Essential Context: Both Episodes Underemphasise

Dr. Coe explicitly and repeatedly advised believing Mormons not to leave their faith on account of his arguments. His critique was directed at specific epistemological errors in apologetics — not at LDS life, community, or moral values.

Frequently Asked Questions

Who was Dr Michael Coe, and why does his critique matter?

Dr Michael Douglas Coe (1929–2019) was the Charles J. MacCurdy Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at Yale University and one of the foremost Mayanists of the 20th century. His work on Maya writing decipherment, excavation of major Olmec sites, and popular books, including The Maya and Breaking the Maya Code,e shaped the field for generations. He was not anti-Mormon — he had LDS colleagues, expressed admiration for Joseph Smith, and ultimately advised believing Mormons to stay in their faith if it made their lives better.

His critique matters because he spent 65 years as a professional archaeologist in the exact geographic and cultural region where Book of Mormon events are most often proposed to have occurred. His objections are not ideological — they are the product of professional expertise.

Is there any Hebrew or Reformed Egyptian in Maya inscriptions?

No—there is no evidence of Hebrew or Reformed Egyptian in Maya inscriptions.

Scholars have largely deciphered the Maya writing system and recorded the Ch’orti Maya language. Thousands of inscriptions spanning over a millennium have been studied, and none show any connection to Near Eastern languages. And records the Ch’orti’ Maya language — wholly unrelated to Hebrew, Egyptian, or any Near Eastern tongue. Thousands of inscriptions spanning from approximately 100 BC to the Spanish conquest have been studied. None contains Near Eastern linguistic influence. BYU’s linguist confirmed the decipherment in part by BYU’s own linguist,t John Robertson, whom Coe specifically acknowledged. This is the strongest single archaeological argument against Book of Mormon historicity in a Mesoamerican setting.

Why are there no horses, cattle, or chariots in Book of Mormon archaeology?

American horses went extinct approximately 10,000 years ago — thousands of years before the Book of Mormon narrative begins. No pre-Columbian cattle, oxen, donkeys, goats, sheep, or Old World-style chariots have been found in Mesoamerican sites from the relevant time period. Pollen studies of lake sediments across Mesoamerica have found no wheat or barley pollen before the Spanish arrival — a direct scientific test of Old World grain cultivation that fails.

LDS scholars offer “loan-shift” explanations (e.g. “horse” may mean tapir) with some linguistic precedent. Coe found these unconvincing when applied simultaneously to multiple animals and technologies. The cumulative weight of the absent evidence remains the archaeological challenge.

Does chiasmus in the Book of Mormon prove it’s an ancient document?

Chiasmus — a Hebrew literary structure — appears extensively in the Book of Mormon and was first formally identified by scholars in 1967, well after Joseph Smith’s death. LDS scholars argue that the complex, multi-element chiastic structures are characteristic of Hebrew composition and unlikely to occur by chance. Coe acknowledged chiasmus exists in Mesoamerican literature and throughout world poetry, and noted the KJV Bible (which saturates the Book of Mormon’s language) contains extensive parallel structures.

Both sides have points. Chiasmus is neither a decisive proof of ancient authorship nor easily dismissed. It is one of the Book of Mormon’s most interesting textual features and deserves continued scholarly attention.

Was Quetzalcoatl the Jesus Christ of the Americas?

No. The “great white god” narrative around Quetzalcoatl was largely constructed by Spanish conquistadors seeking to portray Cortez as a returning deity to ease conquest, not by pre-Columbian peoples as an authentic religious tradition. The Temple of the Cross at Palenque has been fully deciphered by researchers. It depicts a Maya king’s dynastic succession with no reference to Christ or any Old World figure. Modern LDS apologetics has largely moved away from this argument, and the Church’s Gospel Topics Essays do not mention Quetzalcoatl. Coe is correct on this point, and serious LDS scholarship has substantially conceded it.

What is the Nahom evidence, and why didn’t Coe address it?

Nahom/NHM refers to three altar inscriptions containing the tribal name NHM discovered by non-LDS German archaeologists at the Bar’an Temple in Yemen, dated to the 7th–6th centuries BCE. The First Book of Nephi describes Ishmael being buried at “Nahom” at a location where the group then turned eastward, and the NHM altars correspond to a location matching this description. People did not know the name or location from any map or text available to Joseph Smith in 1830.

Coe did not address Nahom in either interview. Critics argue the name could have come from 18th-century maps; LDS scholars note the convergence of name, location, date, and directional turn is not easily explained by coincidence. It is one of the few Old World geographical evidences for the Book of Mormon that serious scholars on both sides continue to debate.

What did Dr Coe think Latter-day Saints should do about these problems?

Coe’s consistent advice across both interviews was compassionate: if LDS values and community make your life and your family’s life better, stay. He explicitly said he would “never criticise that.” His concern was specifically with anti-science epistemology — using anomalies to create unfalsifiable doubt rather than seeking truth, not with LDS faith or community.

He recommended members could embrace a “cultural Mormon” identity — finding real value in LDS moral teachings, community, and heritage without requiring literal historical accuracy. Also, He cited Darwin as someone who lost religious faith but lived a deeply moral life, suggesting the same path is open to Mormons. He called Joseph Smith one of the greatest men who ever lived.

The Honest Summary

Dr Michael D. Coe was the leading authority on the very civilisations where Book of Mormon events are often proposed to have occurred.

Because of that, his critique carries unusual weight.

on the civilisation where Book of Mormon events are most often proposed to have occurred. He was not hostile to Mormonism — he loved many LDS colleagues, admired Joseph Smith, and closed both landmark interviews by telling believers to stay in their faith if it served them. His arguments deserve exactly the engagement this analysis attempts: serious, sourced, and honest about where each side is stronger.

Where Coe is decisive:

The linguistic evidence is the hardest fact for Book of Mormon Mesoamerican historicity to answer. Fifteen centuries of deciphered Maya writing — confirmed in part by BYU’s own John Robertson — contains no Hebrew or Egyptian. The DNA evidence is genomic consensus, acknowledged by the Church’s own Gospel Topics Essay. The animal anachronisms, especially the pollen evidence ruling out Old World grains, represent direct scientific tests that fail.

Where the picture is more complex:

LiDAR reveals a Mesoamerican world during Book of Mormon time periods, more complex and populous than Coe’s casual dismissal in places implied. The loan-shift linguistic argument has genuine precedent. The limited geography model uses real population genetics.

Chiasmus and the Nahom discovery are features that the 19th-century composition hypothesis handles poorly. And the Book of Mormon’s conspicuous silence on distinctively Mesoamerican features — chocolate, turkeys, jaguars, Maya writing — is awkward for both a “Joseph made it up from what he knew” argument and a “it’s an ancient record” argument simultaneously.

Ultimately, intellectual honesty requires restraint from both sides.

LDS apologists should avoid overstating evidence such as LiDAR as proof. Critics, on the other hand, should acknowledge where LDS scholarship offers real responses.

Coe himself drew a clear boundary: archaeology and faith are separate questions. He answered the first with confidence. The second, he deliberately left open.

That distinction remains essential.

Content is for educational purposes. Sources are cited. Corrections are welcome.

LDS Sexual Shame Can Be Real, and John Dehlin is Keeping It Alive and Well

LDS Sexual Shame Can Be Real, and John Dehlin is Keeping It Alive and Well

April 2026

“Graduated BYU and Resigned Immediately”: Five Doctrinal and Institutional Claims, Fact-Checked

Ryan Huey’s story is compelling. He resigned from the LDS Church the same day he received his BYU diploma. As a result, his case highlights real tensions inside the LDS educational system.

However, five specific claims in the episode require careful fact-checking. These claims range from LDS teachings on sexuality to Church membership reporting.

About This Episode

In Mormon Stories Episode 2136 (March 5, 2026), Ryan Huey shares why he resigned from the LDS Church immediately after graduating from BYU.

He explains his devout upbringing, years of sexual shame, and a faith transition during his senior year. In addition, he describes the structural pressure created by BYU’s Honor Code for questioning students.

His personal story is emotionally compelling. However, some doctrinal and institutional claims in the episode need more context and factual clarification.

What We Are Addressing

This rebuttal does not dispute Ryan Huey’s lived experience or the psychological reality of LDS shame culture around sexuality. Researchers have well documented those issues.We address five specific verifiable claims: (1) that masturbation is “second only to murder” in LDS doctrine; (2) that taking the sacrament unworthily is “drinking damnation” in the extreme sense implied; (3) what BYU’s honour code can and cannot actually do to a student’s degree; (4) whether the Church stopped reporting membership numbers; and (5) what the 17 million member figure actually means.

A clear pattern emerges in this episode. It blends accurate personal testimony with doctrinal claims and presents them as fact.

What the Episode Gets Right

LDS shame culture around teenage male sexuality causes genuine psychological harm

✓ Documented and Accurate

Clinical and research literature well documents Ryan’s psychological experience on LDS young adults. The harm is real. Researchers have documented elevated rates of anxiety, scrupulosity (religious OCD), and shame-based disorders among young LDS men navigating the Church’s teaching on sexuality. The system Ryan describes — where honest teens get punished and dishonest ones escape consequences — is a genuine structural dysfunction that many members and leaders have acknowledged.

We do not dispute this. The rebuttal that follows is about precision in specific doctrinal claims, not a dismissal of the underlying harm.

Bottom Line

The sexual shame culture Ryan describes is real, documented, and harmful. His experience is consistent with what research shows about LDS young men navigating the Church’s teaching on chastity. No one seriously disputes these facts.

The Claims — and the Full Picture

Claim 1 of 5

Masturbation is “second only to murder” in LDS doctrine — it’s written in church publications

⚖️ Partially Accurate — Historically Transmitted, Scripturally Overstated, No Longer Current Policy

“I was taught things like masturbation is second only to murder in severity as a sin. And people don’t believe it when I say that. But it’s written down in church publications. It’s not like it came from nowhere.”
— Ryan Huey, ~00:12:27

What’s accurate:

Ryan is correct that this teaching appeared in LDS publications for decades. Spencer W. Kimball’s The Miracle of Forgiveness (1969) and his other writings grouped masturbation within the category of serious sexual sins. The scriptural basis cited is Alma 39:5, which states that sexual sin is “most abominable above all sins save it be the shedding of innocent blood or denying the Holy Ghost” — placing it third in a hierarchy below: (1) denying the Holy Ghost, (2) murder, (3) unchastity. LDS leaders often taught this as “sexual sin is next to murder” — which is real and was taught widely.

What’s overstated:

Two important distinctions. First, Alma 39:5 refers to serious sexual sin — specifically adultery in context, not masturbation. Church culture and leader commentary extended this teaching to masturbation, not direct canonical text. Second — and significantly — the current LDS General Handbook (2020) explicitly states that masturbation is not grounds for holding a church membership council. The Church no longer treats masturbation alone as a sin requiring formal church discipline. The 2020 handbook represents a formal evolution of position from the Kimball era.

yan experienced a teaching that caused real harm during his upbringing. But “it’s written in church publications” conflates a historically transmitted cultural teaching with current canonical doctrine. Truth seekers deserve to know both — the harm was real, and the current official position has moved.

Direct Answer

The “second only to murder” framing for sexual sin does appear in LDS leader commentary and derives from Alma 39:5. However, the scriptural text refers to adultery/unchastity, not masturbation specifically. The 2020 General Handbook removed masturbation from offenses warranting a membership council. The teaching Ryan experienced was real; it no longer represents the current official policy position.

Claim 2 of 5

Taking the sacrament unworthily means “drinking damnation to your soul” — an extreme spiritual consequence

🔷 Scripturally Accurate — but many people misunderstand the word “damnation”

“In Doctrine and Covenants, we’re taught that if you partake of the bread or the water unworthily, you’re drinking damnation to your soul.”
— Ryan Huey, ~00:16:37

Ryan is citing real scripture — though the primary source is 3 Nephi 18:29 in the Book of Mormon (not the Doctrine and Covenants as stated): “For whoso eateth and drinketh my flesh and blood unworthily eateth and drinketh damnation to his soul.” Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 11:29 say essentially the same thing. The Church still teaches these verses today.

The critical doctrinal context:

In LDS theology, “damnation” does not mean what the word implies in everyday English (eternal hellfire). LDS doctrine defines damnation as being “stopped, blocked, or limited in one’s progression” toward God. According to Scripture Central’s entry on damnation: “In LDS doctrine, to be damned means to be stopped, blocked, or limited in one’s progress.” Elder John H. Groberg has taught that a person who sincerely desires to improve and is not under priesthood restriction is worthy to partake.

The psychological impact on Ryan — extreme fear of taking a weekly ordinance publicly — created real and understandable fear given how this was taught. But the “damnation” language, while in the text, carries a far more specific and limited doctrinal meaning than the everyday word implies. The gap between the word used and the doctrine intended is itself a source of the shame Ryan describes.

Direct Answer

The “damnation” language is real scripture (3 Nephi 18:29; 1 Corinthians 11:29). However, “damnation” in LDS theology means being blocked or stopped in spiritual progression — not eternal hellfire. The psychological weight Ryan experienced was real; the technical doctrinal meaning is more limited than the word implies in everyday use.

Claim 3 of 5

BYU can withhold or revoke your diploma if you lose your faith — your degree is at risk for disbelieving

⚖️ Substantially True — with Important Precision on Mechanism and Limits

“Your diploma is in jeopardy… If you openly disbelieve, you put a target on your back.”
— Ryan Huey, ~01:13:42

Ryan’s warning is mostly accurate. However, the mechanism requires more precision.

What’s accurate:

BYU’s official Student Standing Policy states: “Students must be in good Honor Code standing to be admitted to, continue enrollment at, and graduate from BYU.” Good standing requires an active ecclesiastical endorsement, the student’s bishop renews it annually. A bishop can withdraw an endorsement at any time. BYU policy further states: “Students who are not in good Honor Code standing are not eligible for graduation, even if they have completed all necessary coursework.” Additionally, LDS students are required to “fulfill their duty in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, attend Church meetings, and abide by the rules and standards of the Church.” If a bishop learns a student has stopped attending or openly departed from Church standards, the bishop can decline to renew or withdraw the endorsement — blocking graduation. And students who have formally resigned their Church membership cannot receive an endorsement at all.

Important precision:

Losing faith quietly and privately, without the bishop’s knowledge, will not trigger this mechanism. A bishop cannot read minds. The risk is real primarily for students who are openly departing — not attending, publicly challenging the Church, or violating honor code standards like coffee consumption or dress and grooming requirements. Ryan’s framing — that disbelieving itself threatens the diploma — is accurate only if the disbelief manifests in visible behavior or disclosure. The chilling effect on authentic self-expression is real; the mechanism requires observable behaviour, not interior thought alone.

What’s also true:

Once a degree has been awarded and posted, BYU does not revoke awarded degrees for faith changes. The risk window is pre-graduation.

Direct Answer

BYU’s honour code and ecclesiastical endorsement requirements are real and can prevent graduation even for students who have completed all coursework. A bishop can withdraw an endorsement, blocking degree conferral. The risk is primarily triggered by observable behaviour (not attending, openly disbelieving, violating honour code standards) — not by private disbelief alone. Already-awarded degrees are not at risk of revocation.

Claim 4 of 5

Did the LDS Church Stop Reporting Membership Numbers?

✗ Factually Incorrect — Membership Numbers Are Still Reported Every General Conference

“It was like a year ago that they stopped reporting [membership numbers] because once the numbers got bad.”
— John Dehlin, ~02:21:08

This claim, made by Dehlin and not challenged by Ryan, is factually incorrect. The LDS Church continues to report total membership numbers at every General Conference through the annual statistical report. As recently as April 5, 2025, the Church reported that worldwide membership reached 17,509,781 as of December 31, 2024 — a net increase of 254,387 from the prior year. This report was published on the Church Newsroom website and in official conference materials.

What is true:

The Church does not separately report weekly attendance or activity rates. Independent researchers and analysts estimate that active weekly attendance represents approximately 30–35% of total membership — meaning perhaps 5–6 million people actively attend out of 17.5 million on record. This gap is real, significant, and not highlighted in official reporting. The total membership figure includes everyone baptised who has not formally resigned, including those who have been inactive for decades.

The claim that the Church “stopped reporting membership numbers” is simply false. The accurate criticism is that the Church reports total membership without contextualising the activity rate gap — which is a legitimate transparency concern, but a different claim entirely.

Direct Answer

False. The Church reported 17,509,781 members as of December 31, 2024 at the April 2025 General Conference. Membership numbers are reported annually at every General Conference. What the Church does not report separately is weekly attendance/activity rates, estimated at ~30–35% of total membership. That gap is real; the claim that reporting stopped is not.

Claim 5 of 5

The 17.5 million figure is fundamentally misleading because only ~5 million are active

⚖️ The Concern Is Legitimate — the Specific Numbers Require Nuance

“Activity levels are closer to like five million… I don’t want my number falsely reported in a misleading manner.”
— Ryan Huey, ~02:20:11

Ryan’s underlying concern — that the Church’s membership number significantly overstates active participation — is legitimate and widely acknowledged by independent researchers and even some Church-affiliated analysts. The gap between total membership and weekly attendance is real and substantial.

What the numbers actually show:

Independent analyses using ward and stake counts suggest that actual weekly attendance is probably closer to 30–35% of total membership — approximately 5–6 million globally. The Church itself, in statements to media, has acknowledged that “activity levels” differ from membership counts. The 17.5 million includes all people baptised who have not formally resigned or been removed, including those who joined decades ago and never attended again, deceased members whose deaths were not reported to local units, and members who have drifted away silently.

Where precision is needed:

The “5 million active” estimate is a reasonable independent analysis, not an official figure — and estimates vary from around 4 million to 7 million depending on methodology. Presenting it as established fact (“closer to five million”) without noting it is an estimate overstates certainty. Ryan’s decision to resign so his name isn’t counted among the 17.5 million is a completely coherent personal decision based on a legitimate transparency concern — the numbers do not accurately represent active participation. But the “5 million” figure itself is an estimate, not a confirmed internal count.

Direct Answer

The concern is legitimate — the gap between 17.5 million total membership and actual weekly attendance (~30–35%, roughly 5–6 million) is real and not highlighted in Church reporting. The specific “5 million active” figure is a reasonable independent estimate, not a confirmed internal number. Ryan’s motivation to resign is rational and grounded in a real transparency problem.

Frequently Asked Questions

Does the LDS Church teach masturbation is second only to murder?

No, not officially.

This teaching appeared in LDS culture and leader commentary for decades and leader commentary, drawing on Alma 39:5, which places unchastity below murder and denial of the Holy Ghost in a hierarchy of serious sins. Spencer W. Kimball’s Miracle of Forgiveness (1969) grouped masturbation within serious sexual sins that carried grave consequences.

However, the 2020 LDS General Handbook explicitly removed masturbation from the list of offences warranting a formal membership council. The “second only to murder” framing for masturbation specifically overstates what the canonical text actually says — Alma 39:5 addresses sexual sin broadly (adultery in context), not masturbation specifically. The harm Ryan experienced was real; the current canonical position has evolved.

Can BYU really stop you from graduating if you lose your faith?

Yes — but the mechanism is indirect and requires observable behaviour. BYU requires all students to maintain an active ecclesiastical endorsement, renewed annually by their bishop, in order to graduate. A bishop can withdraw this endorsement if the student is no longer meeting Church standards — including attending sacrament meeting and abiding by the Church’s rules. If the endorsement lapses or is withdrawn before graduation day, the degree does not post even if all coursework is complete.

The risk is real for students who are openly departing — not attending, publicly disbelieving, or visibly violating honour code standards. Students who quietly disbelieve while continuing to attend and outwardly comply face lower practical risk, though they must live inauthentically. Students who have already graduated face no risk of having awarded degrees revoked.

Did the LDS Church stop reporting membership numbers?

No. The Church continues to report total membership at every General Conference through the annual statistical report. At the April 2025 General Conference, the Church reported 17,509,781 members as of December 31, 2024.

What the Church does not report separately is weekly attendance or activity rates. Independent researchers estimate that about 30–35% of total membership attends regularly — approximately 5–6 million people. This gap is real and is not highlighted in official reporting, which is a legitimate transparency concern. But the claim that reporting stopped is factually false.

What does “damnation” mean in LDS doctrine when taking the sacrament unworthily?

3 Nephi 18:29 (and 1 Corinthians 11:29) do teach that taking the sacrament unworthily brings “damnation to his soul.” In LDS theology, however, “damnation” means being blocked, stopped, or limited in spiritual progression — not eternal hellfire or the most severe punishment. According to LDS scripture commentary, “ultimate and total damnation comes only to the sons of perdition.” Taking the sacrament unworthily is serious, but the word “damnation” in everyday English carries far heavier connotations than the LDS doctrinal meaning intends.

How many Latter-day Saints are actually active?

The Church reports total membership of 17,509,781 (as of December 31, 2024). Independent researchers estimate actual weekly attendance at roughly 30–35% of total membership — approximately 5–6 million people globally. This estimate is derived from analyses of ward/stake counts relative to total membership, and is consistent with what the Church has acknowledged about “activity levels” differing from total membership.

The Church’s total membership figure includes everyone who has been baptised and not formally resigned, including decades-inactive members. The gap is real and is not highlighted in official reporting.

What are BYU’s honour code requirements for LDS students?

BYU requires LDS students to: maintain an active ecclesiastical endorsement from their bishop; attend church meetings; abide by the rules and standards of the LDS Church; and follow BYU’s dress and grooming standards, academic honesty policy, and other conduct requirements. The endorsement must be renewed annually. A bishop can decline to endorse or can withdraw an endorsement at any time. Loss of endorsement blocks class registration and graduation, even if all coursework is completed. Students who formally resign from the Church are not eligible for an endorsement and therefore cannot enrol or graduate.

The Honest Summary

Ryan Huey tells a story that many people will recognise — the psychological weight of LDS sexual shame culture, the confessional system’s perverse incentive structure (honest people get punished, dishonest ones escape), and the structural bind of attending a university where your degree depends on your bishop’s annual approval. These are real, documented problems. His decision to resign immediately after graduation is coherent and principled.

But several specific claims in the episode require correction. Masturbation as “second only to murder” in severity is a historically transmitted teaching rooted in leader commentary on Alma 39, not direct canonical text — and the 2020 General Handbook no longer treats masturbation as a membership-council offence, representing significant evolution. The sacrament “damnation” language is real scripture but carries a specific, limited LDS doctrinal meaning that differs from the everyday English word. BYU’s honour code does create real diploma risk — through the ecclesiastical endorsement mechanism — but primarily for students whose departure becomes visible, not for silent disbelief. The Church has not stopped reporting membership numbers; it continues to report them at every General Conference. And the “5 million active” figure is a reasonable estimate, not a confirmed fact.

Truth seekers deserve both the legitimate critique Ryan brings and the full accuracy of what LDS doctrine and institutional policy actually say. Both serve understanding. Neither alone is sufficient.

 

 

David Archuleta’s Mormon Story: Honouring His Experience While Fact-Checking Five Doctrinal Claims

David Archuleta’s Mormon Story: Honouring His Experience While Fact-Checking Five Doctrinal Claims

April 2026

David Archuleta’s Mormon Story: Honouring His Experience While Fact-Checking Five Doctrinal Claims

David Archuleta shares a real and painful story. His experience as a gay Latter-day Saint—the shame, the scrupulosity, and the silence—deserves to be heard. However, several historical and doctrinal claims in this episode need correction. Truth matters to everyone, especially people navigating faith transitions.

 

A Note Before We Begin

David Archuleta’s story is real, and it is painful. The shame he carried, the scrupulosity he developed, the silence he lived inside — these are documented experiences shared by many LGBT Latter-day Saints. His courage in telling this story serves people who have lived something similar and need to feel less alone.

This rebuttal does not dispute his personal experience. Instead, it examines five doctrinal and historical claims from the episode that are inaccurate or imprecise. Truth matters, and inaccuracy helps no one. Readers processing their own faith transition deserve both compassion and accuracy.

About This Episode

Mormon Stories Episode 2114 (January 2026) features an hour-long conversation between host John Dehlin and singer David Archuleta, discussing Archuleta’s memoir Devout: Losing My Faith to Find Myself. Archuleta describes growing up gay in the LDS Church, his mission, his encounters with Elder M. Russell Ballard, and his eventual departure from the Church in 2022.

Much of the episode contains personal testimony. Archuleta owns that lived experience, and this article does not challenge it. What we address are five specific doctrinal or historical claims that, as stated, are either inaccurate or present a misleadingly simple picture of what the LDS Church actually teaches or has taught.

Pattern to notice: This episode blends personal testimony with doctrinal claims. Personal stories deserve respect, while factual claims deserve verification. Because emotion can influence listeners, both require careful attention.

What the Episode Gets Right

Conceded — Historically Accurate

Earlier Church leaders taught homosexuality was a choice, could be overcome, and was among the gravest sins

✓ Historically Accurate

Archuleta describes being taught as a youth — through Spencer W. Kimball’s writings and from the pulpit — that homosexuality was a choice, was sinful, was comparable to grievous crimes, and could be overcome through righteousness. This accurately reflects Church teaching and culture from the Kimball era through the early 2000s. Kimball’s The Miracle of Forgiveness (1969) did teach these things, and it was widely circulated. Local leaders taught these messages.

The scrupulosity David Archuleta describes — becoming obsessively obedient as a way to “compensate” for or “cure” same-sex attraction — is a documented clinical pattern among LGBT Latter-day Saints of his generation, well-supported in research and consistent with what a Mormon therapist identified in his own case.

Bottom Line
The historical Church teaching David experienced was real. His suffering was real. Acknowledging this honestly is essential — and does not require overstating what the Church currently teaches.

The Claims — and the Full Picture

Claim 1 of 5

LDS scripture is “100% silent on homosexuality” — the Book of Mormon, D&C, Pearl of Great Price, all completely silent

⚖️ Partially Accurate — Requires Precision

“It always blew my mind that the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine of Covenants, Book of Abraham… all of Mormon scripture is 100% silent on homosexuality, 100%.”
— David Archuleta, ~00:16:14

This claim needs an important distinction. Archuleta is right that the unique Restoration scriptures — the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price — contain no explicit reference to same-sex sexual conduct. That observation is accurate and important.

However, the full LDS scriptural canon includes the Bible as one of the four “standard works.” The Bible does contain passages that the LDS Church — like most traditional Christian denominations — interprets as addressing same-sex sexual conduct (Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:26–27, and others). The Church’s law of chastity is grounded in its interpretation of the whole scriptural canon, including these biblical texts.

The statement becomes inaccurate when the full LDS canon includes the Bible. The more precise and defensible statement is that the Restoration scriptures are silent — which is notable and worth discussing on its own terms.

Direct Answer

The Book of Mormon, D&C, and Pearl of Great Price contain no explicit reference to same-sex conduct — accurate and noteworthy. But the LDS scriptural canon includes the Bible, which contains passages the Church does interpret on this subject. “All of Mormon scripture” is therefore not 100% silent.

Claim 2 of 5

The Family Proclamation “was just a legal brief that was developed for legal reasons” and was never really a revelation

⚠️ Misleading — Mischaracterises Origins and Status

“By the way, the proclamation of the family was just a legal brief that was developed for legal reasons that then ended up getting adopted — it was never really a revelation to begin with.”
— John Dehlin (not disputed by Archuleta), ~01:14:18

This is John Dehlin’s claim, not Archuleta’s, but it goes unchallenged and functions as a factual assertion in the episode. It is not accurate.

What is true: The Family Proclamation was issued in September 1995 during a period of active legal challenges to traditional marriage definitions. It was subsequently included in an amicus brief to the Hawaii Supreme Court in 1997 and in at least six other court cases over the following decades. The document emerged in a context where LDS leaders were closely watching same-sex marriage litigation.

What is false: Characterising it as “just a legal brief” erases its clear doctrinal origin. President Gordon B. Hinckley prefaced the Proclamation by saying it was “a declaration and reaffirmation of standards, doctrines, and practices relative to the family which the prophets, seers, and revelators of this church have repeatedly stated throughout its history.” President Russell M. Nelson has described the year-long deliberative and prayerful process that preceded its drafting. It has been cited more than 250 times in General Conference addresses. Apostle Boyd K. Packer stated it “qualifies according to the definition as a revelation.” President Nelson presented a copy to Pope Francis as one of two gifts when they first met.

One can disagree with the Proclamation’s doctrinal claims and believe the legal context influenced its timing — that is a legitimate discussion. But “just a legal brief” is a rhetorical dismissal, not an accurate description of its origin, process, or reception in LDS theology.

Direct Answer

The Family Proclamation was a formal doctrinal statement issued by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles after a year-long drafting process described by its authors as prayerful and revelatory. It was subsequently used in legal briefs — but that does not make it a legal brief. The claim that it was “never really a revelation” contradicts the stated experience of its drafters.

Claim 3 of 5

The Church still teaches that being gay is a choice and that same-sex attraction can be prayed away

🕐 Historically Accurate — No Longer Current Teaching

“At the time when I was in Young Men’s… we were taught that yeah, it’s a choice and people who choose to be that way are sinning.”
— David Archuleta, ~00:30:00

Archuleta’s account of what he was taught is accurate for the period he describes — his childhood and young adulthood in the late 1990s and 2000s. Church culture and local leaders regularly taught that same-sex attraction was a choice and could be overcome. This is historically documented and not in dispute.

However, the episode does not clearly distinguish this as historical — leaving listeners to infer it is still the current position. The Church’s teaching has shifted substantially. By 2012, the Church’s official “MormonsAndGays” website explicitly stated that same-sex attraction is not a choice. By 2016, the Church affirmed that conversion therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation is unethical. The current official LDS position states that the Church takes no position on the cause of same-sex attraction. It also states that individuals do not choose such attractions. The Church now states that “Identifying as gay, lesbian, or bisexual or experiencing same-sex attraction is not a sin.”

The shift from “choice that must be overcome” to “not a choice, not a sin” is significant — and truth seekers deserve to know when it happened and where the Church now stands, not only where it stood during Archuleta’s youth.

Direct Answer

The Church historically taught same-sex attraction was a choice — accurate for the period Archuleta describes. Since 2012, the Church has explicitly stated attraction is not a choice. Since 2019, it has stated conversion therapy is unethical. The current official position is that same-sex attraction is not a sin. The gap between historical and current teaching is real and significant.

Claim 4 of 5

The November 2015 policy “put same-sex marriage worse than pedophilia or rape” — mandatory excommunication for the former, never mandatory for the latter

⚖️ Partially Accurate — Framing Overstated

“The Church would have come out with that horrible November 2015 exclusion policy where same-sex marriage became grounds for mandatory excommunication… because pedophilia and rape had never been mandatory excommunicable offenses.”
— John Dehlin, ~00:59:58

The November 2015 policy was genuinely harmful and has been widely criticised, including by many faithful Latter-day Saints. The reversal in 2019 was widely welcomed. These are not contested points.

However, the specific framing deserves examination. The 2015 policy classified members in same-sex marriages as “apostates” — which did carry a presumption of formal disciplinary council. Sexual sins including serious assault are handled under the Church’s General Handbook through formal disciplinary councils as well, and have historically resulted in excommunication when adjudicated. The claim that rape and pedophilia “had never been mandatory excommunicable offenses” requires nuance — the Church’s approach to both has been inconsistent and has drawn serious criticism, but it is not accurate that these categories have been systematically treated more leniently than same-sex marriage by the institution’s formal rules.

What is true and important: the 2015 policy singled out same-sex marriage specifically for apostasy status — a category above ordinary serious sin — and this asymmetry was widely experienced as unjust. The reversal in 2019 was attributed by Church leaders to “continuing revelation.” As Elder Ballard reportedly told Archuleta privately, it was a mistake — though the Church did not use that word publicly.

Direct Answer

The November 2015 policy was genuinely harmful and unjust — it designated same-sex marriage as apostasy warranting mandatory disciplinary action, and was reversed in 2019. The specific claim that rape and pedophilia “had never been excommunicable offenses” oversimplifies a complex disciplinary history, but the core critique of the 2015 policy’s asymmetry and harm is well-founded.

Claim 5 of 5

The Church promoted the “elevation theory” to deny a link between its policies and LGBT youth suicide rates in Utah

⚖️ Nuanced — The Church’s Role in This Debate Requires Precision

“I foolishly believed [the elevation explanation] as well… I realize now that it wasn’t the elevation that got me to almost end my life in Tennessee.”
— David Archuleta, ~01:27:27

Archuleta describes believing an explanation — circulated in some Church-adjacent contexts — that elevated altitude, not religious culture, explained higher suicide rates in Utah. He now recognises this as inadequate given his own experience.

This requires care. The altitude/suicide correlation is a real peer-reviewed finding documented by researchers at the University of Utah and elsewhere — higher altitude is associated with lower serotonin levels and increased suicide risk. This finding predates and is independent of LDS Church policy debates. The research exists and has been discussed by physicians and public health officials, not only as Church PR.

However, altitude does not explain everything — particularly the documented spike in LGBT youth suicides and membership resignations following the November 2015 policy. The broader question of whether Church teachings contribute to higher suicide risk among LGBT members is supported by research, and the Church’s response to that research has been widely criticised as inadequate. Archuleta’s rejection of the altitude explanation as a complete answer is reasonable — the problem is treating a real (if partial) scientific finding as inherently a bad-faith deflection.

Direct Answer

The altitude-suicide correlation is a real, peer-reviewed finding — not an invention by Church PR. However, altitude alone does not explain the specific elevated risk documented among LGBT Latter-day Saints, particularly in the aftermath of the 2015 policy. Both things can be true: altitude matters, and Church teaching also matters.

Frequently Asked Questions About David Archuleta and LDS Church Teachings

Is LDS scripture completely silent on homosexuality?

Partially. The unique Restoration scriptures — the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price — contain no explicit reference to same-sex sexual conduct. This is accurate and notable.

However, the full LDS scriptural canon includes the Bible as one of four “standard works.” The Bible contains passages (including in Leviticus and Romans) that the Church interprets as addressing same-sex conduct. The more precise claim is that the Restoration scriptures are silent — not “all of Mormon scripture.”

Was the Family Proclamation just a legal brief?

No. “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” was issued on September 23, 1995 as a formal doctrinal statement by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. President Hinckley described it as “a declaration and reaffirmation of standards, doctrines, and practices.” President Nelson has described a year-long prayerful drafting process.

It was subsequently included in legal amicus briefs (beginning with the Hawaii Supreme Court in 1997) and used in political advocacy contexts. This legal use is real, but it followed — rather than constituted — the Proclamation’s origin. The claim that it “was never really a revelation” contradicts the stated experience of its drafters.

Does the LDS Church currently teach that being gay is a choice?

No — not since 2012. The Church’s earlier teachings did present same-sex attraction as a choice that could be overcome. But in 2012, the Church explicitly stated on its official website that same-sex attraction is not a choice. In 2019, it stated that conversion therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation is unethical. The current official position is: “Individuals do not choose to have such attractions” and “Identifying as gay, lesbian, or bisexual or experiencing same-sex attraction is not a sin.”

David Archuleta’s account of what he was taught during his youth (late 1990s–2000s) accurately reflects the teaching of that period. It does not reflect what the Church officially teaches today.

What was the November 2015 LDS policy and what happened to it?

In November 2015, the LDS Church updated its Handbook designating members in same-sex marriages as “apostates” subject to mandatory disciplinary councils, and barring children of same-sex couples from baptism until age 18 unless they denounced their parents’ relationship. The policy was immediately controversial and led to mass resignations.

In April 2019, the Church reversed both elements of the policy. Children of LGBT parents could again be baptised, and same-sex marriage was reclassified from apostasy to “a serious transgression.” The Church attributed the reversal to “continuing revelation.” Church leaders did not publicly describe it as a mistake, though Archuleta’s memoir describes Apostle Ballard privately acknowledging it as one.

What is scrupulosity and how does it affect LGBT Mormons?

Scrupulosity is a religious subtype of OCD characterised by intrusive fears of sin, excessive rituals of repentance or obedience, and a chronic sense of unworthiness that persists regardless of compliance. It is a recognised clinical condition distinct from healthy religious devotion.

Researchers and clinicians have documented elevated rates of scrupulosity among LGBT Latter-day Saints — particularly those who internalised the teaching that same-sex attraction was sinful and could be overcome through sufficient righteousness. The pattern David Archuleta describes — becoming obsessively compliant as a way to compensate for or neutralise same-sex attraction — is consistent with this documented clinical picture. A Mormon therapist he worked with identified it in his own case.

What does the LDS Church currently teach about LGBT members?

The current official LDS position: same-sex attraction is not a sin and is not a choice. Identifying as gay, lesbian, or bisexual does not prevent full participation in the Church. Conversion therapy is unethical. The Church does not take a position on the cause of same-sex attraction.

However: same-sex sexual activity and same-sex marriage remain violations of the law of chastity and are subject to Church discipline. Members in same-sex marriages can attend services but cannot hold callings, temple recommends, or other ordinances. The theological framework — that exaltation requires an eternal heterosexual marriage — remains unchanged. Same-sex marriage is classified as “a serious transgression” rather than apostasy (since the 2019 reversal).

The Honest Summary

David Archuleta’s story deserves to be told, heard, and taken seriously. The shame he carried, the scrupulosity he developed, the silence he maintained — these were real consequences of real Church teaching from a real era. The suffering of LGBT Latter-day Saints is documented, significant, and must not be dismissed.

But compassion for a person’s story does not require abandoning accuracy about doctrine. Several specific claims in this episode need correction. The Restoration scriptures are silent on same-sex conduct — but the LDS canon includes the Bible, which is not. The Family Proclamation was not “just a legal brief” — it was a formal doctrinal statement that was subsequently used in legal contexts. The Church’s teaching on same-sex attraction as a choice was historically accurate for Archuleta’s youth but has been officially reversed since 2012. The 2015 policy was genuinely harmful and was reversed in 2019. And the altitude-suicide research is real science, even if it cannot fully explain the specific harms Church policy has caused.

Truth seekers—whether questioning members, former members, or curious observers—deserve two things: compassion and accuracy. David Archuleta’s experience matters. Historical and doctrinal facts matter as well. Readers can hold both truths at the same time.

 

 

Mormon Stories: Does the Mormon Church “Groom” Mothers?

Mormon Stories: Does the Mormon Church “Groom” Mothers?

Was Chelsey “Groomed” for Motherhood — or Prepared for It?

About This Episode

John Dehlin, host of Mormon Stories, interviews Chelsey Rencher Liaga in a compelling and emotional episode centered on LDS motherhood pressure and women’s identity in the Church. Chelsey argues that the Church’s emphasis on motherhood robbed her of identity, freedom, and choice. Her experience is clearly real and deserves compassion.

Chelsey, a licensed therapist in Arizona, shares her story of growing up devoutly LDS in Gilbert before leaving the Church. She discusses perfectionism, orthorexia, purity culture, a post-mission depressive episode, and her gradual faith deconstruction. Because much of her story is sincere and relatable, it becomes even more important to separate personal experience from broader institutional claims.

The Central Argument

This episode builds the case that LDS motherhood pressure systematically “grooms” women for motherhood. It argues that this pressure strips women of autonomy, damages identity, and creates measurable psychological harm. Furthermore, it frames these outcomes as direct products of Church doctrine.

The episode points to the Family Proclamation, purity culture, and the expectation to become a stay-at-home mother as evidence of a harmful system. As a result, viewers may leave believing these are universal realities within the Church rather than experiences shaped by culture, geography, and local leadership.

A Familiar Pattern

This follows a familiar pattern often seen in Mormon Stories episodes. A real and painful personal story is shared, validated throughout the interview, and then expanded into a larger claim about the Church as a whole. Chelsey’s struggles are real, but the broader framing deserves scrutiny.

Chelsey’s professional clients are people who often feel harmed by religion. Her close circle includes many former members of the Church. Therefore, her perspective may naturally focus on negative outcomes. The episode never interviews women who experienced the same teachings positively, making the piece feel more like advocacy than balanced journalism.

The Claims — and the Full Picture

Claim 1: The Church Teaches Women Their Only Value Is Motherhood

“No one ever asked me, ‘Do you want to be a mom?’ It was never a question… Everything was always framed around, well, it has to be flexible cuz you’re going to be a mom.”

— Chelsey Rencher Liaga (~00:15:12)

Chelsey’s experience of feeling pressure toward motherhood is genuine. For many viewers, this reflects what they describe as LDS motherhood pressure in certain communities. Many women in heavily LDS communities report similar cultural expectations, especially in areas like Gilbert, Arizona. However, the episode repeatedly presents this as official Church doctrine rather than local culture.

What the Church Actually Teaches

The Church has consistently encouraged women to pursue education and personal development. Leaders often cite Doctrine and Covenants 25:8 as support for lifelong learning and contribution. The BYU Religious Studies Center documents LDS women serving as physicians, lawyers, professors, homemakers, teachers, artists, and business leaders.

The Church does not teach that women cannot work outside the home. In fact, many faithful LDS women build successful careers while remaining active and respected in their communities. Therefore, the claim that women only have value as mothers does not reflect official doctrine.

Where the Tension Is Real

At the same time, earlier Church leaders sometimes strongly encouraged mothers to stay home. Ezra Taft Benson frequently emphasized this role, and that legacy still shapes some ward cultures today. The Family Proclamation teaches that mothers are “primarily responsible” for nurturing children, which carries real social and emotional weight.

That tension deserves honest acknowledgment. However, the episode presents the most restrictive cultural version of this teaching as if it were universal doctrine. Chelsey’s experience is real, but it is not the whole picture.

Bottom Line

The pressure Chelsey felt is real and documented in many LDS communities. However, the episode conflates culture with doctrine. The Church teaches that motherhood is sacred and important, but it does not teach that women have no value outside of it.

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Claim 2: Purity Culture Damages Women

“The chewed up gum virtue lesson. You can’t un-chew gum…”

— Chelsey Rencher Liaga (~00:26:57)

This is one of the strongest and most honest criticisms in the episode. Lessons like the “chewed gum” analogy have caused real psychological harm to many young women. Faithful LDS members have criticized these teachings for decades because they often create shame rather than teach healthy doctrine.

What the Church Actually Teaches

The Church’s doctrine of chastity centers on covenants, dignity, and the sacred nature of intimacy. It does not teach that a woman’s worth depends on her sexual history. Lessons like the “gum” analogy were never part of official Church curriculum.

Instead, local youth leaders often improvised these object lessons. Therefore, these examples reflect poor teaching methods rather than official doctrine.

A Legitimate Concern

Even so, chastity teaching has often created more social shame for women than for men. Researchers and members have both documented this imbalance. As a result, many women experienced these lessons as deeply harmful.

The Church has taken steps to correct this. Newer versions of For the Strength of Youth and updated curriculum materials emphasize agency, personal revelation, and covenant-based teaching instead of shame.

Bottom Line

Shame-based chastity lessons caused real harm and deserve criticism. However, they were never official doctrine, and the Church has actively moved away from them.

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Claim 3: Mormonism Caused Her Perfectionism, Orthorexia, and Depression

“A mission is the perfect storm…”

— Chelsey Rencher Liaga (~01:00:04)

Chelsey’s struggles with perfectionism, orthorexia, and depression are real. She discusses them with honesty and insight. However, the episode repeatedly frames these issues as direct products of Mormonism.

Other Contributing Factors

Chelsey herself names several non-religious factors. She describes growing up around family diet culture and constant conversations about weight loss. She also identifies herself as a natural perfectionist and a “glass child” in a family with more demanding siblings.

American culture also places intense pressure on women’s bodies and appearance. Therefore, many of these pressures existed outside religion and likely shaped her regardless of faith.

What the Episode Leaves Out

The Church actively teaches mental health awareness and offers resources. Chelsey’s own story illustrates this. Her mission president’s wife first recognized signs of orthorexia and connected her to LDS Family Services.

That support came from within the Church structure. It did not come despite it. Furthermore, many studies show religious participation often improves mental health outcomes through support networks and meaning-making.

Bottom Line

Chelsey’s struggles were real, and mission life may have intensified them. However, the episode presents correlation as causation. The truth is more complex.

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Claim 4: The Church’s Treatment of LGBTQ Members Is Indefensible

“If God is designing people to be born gay…”

— Chelsey Rencher Liaga (~01:09:53)

This is the most serious and emotionally weighty question in the episode. It deserves honest engagement rather than dismissal. Many faithful members have wrestled deeply with this same issue.

What the Church Teaches

The Church teaches that same-sex attraction itself is not sinful. It also teaches that God loves all His children equally. The law of chastity applies to all members and reserves sexual relations for marriage between a man and a woman.

Church leaders also teach that faithful members will receive every promised blessing in God’s timing. Therefore, the Church frames this issue within eternal theology rather than present-day fairness alone.

Where the Tension Is Real

Chelsey references the 2015 November Policy, which restricted ordinances for children of same-sex couples. That policy caused pain and confusion for many members. In 2019, Church leaders reversed it.

That reversal matters because it shows policy can change. However, the episode does not acknowledge this development. It focuses only on the pain without discussing the reconsideration.

Bottom Line

This is the most legitimate tension in the episode. The Church’s doctrinal position is sincere, not simple cruelty. However, the emotional and theological difficulty remains unresolved for many members.

The Honest Summary

Chelsey Rencher Liaga appears thoughtful, caring, and sincere. Her experience growing up in Gilbert, Arizona is real, and many of the pressures she describes exist in certain LDS communities. These include LDS motherhood pressure, shame-based chastity teaching, and the emotional intensity of mission life.

However, this episode fails to distinguish between culture and doctrine. It treats one woman’s painful experience as representative of a global institution serving millions. It attributes every negative outcome to the Church while ignoring positive experiences and internal reforms.

Truth seekers deserve both sides. The Church teaches motherhood is sacred, but it also values education and agency. Harmful local teachings have existed, but the Church has worked to move away from them. Serious LGBTQ tensions remain, but policies have changed and difficult questions continue to be discussed.

Ultimately, the debate over LDS motherhood pressure depends on whether those expectations come from doctrine, culture, or both.Chelsey’s story matters and deserves to be heard. It is not the full picture.

Builders, Messengers, and Gatherers: What We May Be Missing

Builders, Messengers, and Gatherers: What We May Be Missing

Builders. Messengers. Gatherers.

A Spiritual, Symbolic, and Scriptural Reading of
the New Young Women Age-Group Names —
and Their Parallels to the Aaronic Priesthood
Faith is built. Hope is carried. Light is gathered.
Together, these three ideas form a progression that shapes the entire structure of the program.

On April 20, 2026, the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced the new Young Women age-group names: Builders of Faith, Messengers of Hope, and Gatherers of Light. These new names apply to young women ages 12 and older and are designed to help them understand their divine identity, spiritual progression, and role in God’s work.

More specifically, this document is a meditation on the depth of these names — their scriptural foundations, their ancient linguistic and symbolic roots, and the way they parallel the work of the Aaronic Priesthood offices that young men hold at the same ages. It is offered as a resource for leaders, parents, teachers, and the young women themselves. It is not an official Church publication, but a faithful exploration of what the Church has given us.

To begin, what are the new Young Women age-group names?

The new Young Women age-group names in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are:

  • Builders of Faith (ages 12–13)
  • Messengers of Hope (ages 14–15)
  • Gatherers of Light (ages 16+)

These names emphasize spiritual growth, covenant identity, and discipleship.

Before going deeper, a quick orientation to what follows: First, Part One reads each name deeply, tracing its scriptural anchor and its ancient symbolic resonance. Second, Part Two sets the Young Women progression beside the Aaronic Priesthood progression and shows how the two were designed to mirror each other. Third, Part Three offers concrete, weekly, repeatable action ideas so that each name can become lived identity. Fourth, Part Four closes with reflection, and lastly Part Five provides a sources and scripture index for further study.

Part One: The Names, Read Deeply

Why These New Young Women Names Matter

Before examining each name individually, however, it is important to understand the overall structure of the three names. Together, they form a clear spiritual progression. The Church has chosen faith, hope, and light — not the classical Pauline triad of faith, hope, and charity (1 Corinthians 13; see also Moroni 7:45–48). Church leaders placed light where charity would be. Why?

Ultimately, then, charity is the destination. In fact, Relief Society is explicitly described by President Freeman as “a lifelong sisterhood of charity,” and the Young Women progression is the preparation for that sisterhood. From there, the path is: Faith → Hope → Light → (Charity).

Therefore, light becomes the bridge between hope and charity — the medium through which charity itself becomes possible. You cannot love as Christ loves until you have first gathered enough of His light to see as He sees. Seen this way, the Gatherer of Light is not merely the third stage; she is the threshold stage, the one who stands at the door of covenant womanhood.

Another important detail is that each name is a verb in participial form: Builders, Messengers, Gatherers. These describe what a young woman does, not what she passively is. Contrast this with the retired names — Beehive, Mia Maid, and Laurel — which were metaphors of identity (an industrious insect, a maiden, a victor’s wreath). These names carry a theological shift: identity is formed through action and covenant, not inherited through symbol.

More Than a Name Change

At the same time, this is also — we should say plainly — a structure that mirrors how young men have been named for over a century. A deacon is not a symbol; he is the one who does deacon-things. A teacher teaches. A priest performs priestly acts. The new Young Women names finally give girls names of the same grammatical and theological kind: names that describe their work.

One more framing note. President Emily Belle Freeman has said the inspiration for the names came during a For the Strength of Youth conference in Tahiti in late 2025, as young women sang “As Sisters in Zion,” and she saw the three themes — building faith, sharing hope, gathering and reflecting light — in the verses of the hymn. The names therefore carry a double anchor: the printed scriptures the Church has assigned to them, and the sung scripture of a beloved Latter-day Saint hymn. Both are worth holding as you read what follows.

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Builders of Faith (ages 12–13)

“And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone.” — Ephesians 2:20

Reading the whole passage, not just the verse

The First Presidency anchored this name in a single verse, but that verse only fully opens when you read it with the two verses around it. Ephesians 2:19–22 reads: “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”

In fact, it is temple language.
Here, Paul describes the household of God as a temple being built up — a dwelling place for the Spirit, constructed out of people who were once strangers.
For a Latter-day Saint 12-year-old, however, this is not an abstract metaphor. Temple-building sits at the literal and symbolic center of the faith.
So when she is called a Builder of Faith at age 12, she is being named directly into that work.

The Hebrew wordplay: children and builders

There is a rabbinic tradition — recorded in the Talmud, Berakhot 64a — that reads Isaiah 54:13 (“and all thy children shall be taught of the Lord”) with a wordplay. In Hebrew, the word for “your children” is banayikh. The word for “your builders” is bonayikh. The two words are written with the same consonants — only the vowels differ. The Sages said: “Do not read banayikh (your children) but bonayikh (your builders).”

What follows is a striking theological claim: the children of the covenant are its builders. To be a child of God is to be a builder of God’s house. The two roles are not sequential; they are the same role. A 12- or 13-year-old Builder of Faith is not waiting to become a builder someday. She is a builder, now, by virtue of being a covenant child of God.

Moreover, this wordplay also illuminates why Isaiah 54 matters so deeply for Latter-day Saint women specifically. The chapter is addressed to a barren woman who is promised she will have more children than she can count. It is the chapter Christ quotes to His sisters in 3 Nephi. It is a chapter about women being promised the work of building up a covenant people. Placing 12-year-old girls in the bonayikh lineage means placing them in Isaiah’s prophecy of Zion’s daughters rebuilding a nation.

The chief cornerstone: what it meant in the ancient world

The phrase “chief corner stone” points back to Psalm 118:22 (“The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner”) and Isaiah 28:16 (“Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation”). In the ancient Near East, the cornerstone was the first stone laid at the corner of a structure. Every other stone was measured and aligned to it. If the cornerstone was off by a fraction of a degree, the entire building would be out of true by the time it reached the top. The cornerstone held the two perpendicular walls in right relationship to each other.

Practically speaking, Christ as the cornerstone means: every other stone — every other person in the household of God — takes its orientation from Him. A Builder of Faith is not the architect. Nor is she the cornerstone. Instead, she is a living stone and a hand that lays other stones — always measuring to Christ, always drawing others into alignment with Him.

Worth noting: in some ancient Near Eastern traditions, the foundation deposit — the ritual objects placed beneath the cornerstone — was laid by the queen or by high-status women. The cornerstone marked the beginning of the building’s life, and that beginning was often entrusted to women. Placing the youngest group of Young Women in the foundation-laying role echoes this ancient pattern: the beginning of the structure is given to those just entering their covenant lives.

What the name actually promises her

In addition, the Church’s own description, from the Newsroom release, says Builders of Faith “can help to build God’s kingdom through faith in Christ and uplifting actions.” Notice the two prepositions: through faith and through actions. Faith is not abstract; it is built into the lives of others by what she does. Each act of faithful kindness is a stone laid into the house of God.

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Messengers of Hope (ages 14–15)

“Willing to mourn with those that mourn; yea, and comfort those that stand in need of comfort, and to stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things.” — Mosiah 18:8–9

The Hebrew and Greek of ‘messenger’

In Hebrew, the word malakh (מַלְאָךְ) means messenger. In Greek, the word angelos (ἄγγελος) also means messenger.

Both words are used for angels throughout scripture. As the Hebrew lexical scholarship notes, in the Hebrew Bible malakh refers to divine messengers in 124 cases and to human messengers in 88 cases — and the text rarely draws a sharp line between them. Scripture treats human messengers and angelic ones as doing essentially the same work.

Malachi’s — whose book closes the Old Testament — very name means “my messenger.” (Malachi 3:1 uses the same word for his name and his calling). John the Baptist is introduced in Luke 1:17 as one who comes “in the spirit and power of Elias” — language Malachi prophesied. In scripture, a malakh often fulfills a prophetic role in miniature.: one sent by God with a message that prepares the way.

Calling a 14-year-old a Messenger of Hope places her within a scriptural continuum that includes Gabriel, John the Baptist, and the prophets.
In other words, this is not decorative language — it is covenantal.

Mourning with those that mourn: the messenger’s actual work

Importantly, notice what kind of messenger the scripture assigns her. Nor is it a proclamation-style messenger — trumpet on a wall, announcing doom or victory. The Mosiah 18 charge is a ministering-style messenger: one who sits beside the grieving, comforts those who need comfort, and stands as witness of God in everyday settings.

In practice, this becomes even clearer: it maps precisely onto an ancient Near Eastern role that women specifically held. In Jeremiah 9:17–20, God commands: “Call for the mourning women, that they may come; and send for cunning women, that they may come … let them take up a wailing for us.” Professional mourning was a women’s office in ancient Israel. Similarly, 2 Samuel 14 describes a “wise woman” sent from Tekoah to speak parabolic truth to the king. These women were not peripheral figures. They were the designated messengers through whom the community carried its grief into ritual form and its truth into the halls of power.

The Messenger of Hope steps into a lineage of ancient women who held the community’s sorrow and spoke its deepest truths. Mosiah 18’s baptismal covenant — to mourn with those who mourn and stand as witness — is the spiritual DNA of that lineage.

Hope as a cord: tikvah and the scarlet thread

In English, “hope” often sounds like wishful thinking. The Hebrew tikvah (תִּקְוָה) means something very different. Its root, qavah, means to bind together, to twist into a cord, to wait with tension. Tikvah literally means a cord or rope — the kind made by twisting many fibers together until they become something strong enough to hold a body’s weight.

The first time the word tikvah appears in the Hebrew Bible, it is not translated “hope” at all. It appears in Joshua 2:18 — Rahab’s scarlet cord. The spies tell her to tie a tikvat shani (cord of scarlet thread) in her window, so that when the city falls, her household will be spared. That rope is her hope. It is the literal object she clings to. It is the sign that ties her fate to the covenant of the God of Israel. Every other time tikvah appears in scripture — Proverbs 23:18, Jeremiah 31:17 — it carries this image: a cord that connects the present to a promised future.

A Messenger of Hope is someone who carries the rope.

She brings the tether that connects someone in darkness to the promise of deliverance.

Taken together, this reframes the name entirely. In other words, she is not merely a girl carrying a sunny thought. She is a girl holding a lifeline. At times, she becomes Rahab tying the cord. Often, her text message, whose presence, whose note, whose sitting-beside becomes the scarlet thread in another person’s window when their city is falling. By extension, she becomes, a participant in the same work the Savior does when He stands at the door and knocks — except she stands at the window and throws the rope down.

The national anthem of modern Israel is called HaTikvah — “The Hope.” For a people who endured exile and the Holocaust to choose “our hope is not yet lost” as their song says something about what biblical hope is: not optimism, but a cord that refuses to break. That is the hope a 14-year-old Messenger is asked to carry.

The ordinance echo: baptismal covenant

Mosiah 18 is the baptismal covenant chapter of the Book of Mormon. Alma is baptizing believers at the waters of Mormon. The verses given to the Messengers of Hope are the words the baptized agreed to live by. This is a deliberate choice. A 14-year-old Young Woman has been baptized for roughly two years at this point. Her age-group name is the living-out of her baptismal covenant. It is the scripture she committed to when she went under the water. Now the Church is calling her by it.

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Gatherers of Light (ages 16 and older)

“That which is of God is light; and he that receiveth light, and continueth in God, receiveth more light; and that light groweth brighter and brighter until the perfect day.” — Doctrine and Covenants 50:24

Gathering: the verb of the Lord Himself

“Gathering” is one of the central verbs of Latter-day Saint theology. The Church’s ninth Article of Faith speaks of “the literal gathering of Israel.” The Savior uses the word of Himself in some of His most tender scriptural moments. In Matthew 23:37 He says: “How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not.” He repeats this to His sisters on the American continent in 3 Nephi 10:4–6.

Significantly, the verb used of the oldest Young Women is the verb the Savior uses of Himself. To be a Gatherer is to participate in the work Christ has claimed as His own. This is not a small naming. It is assigning her the Savior’s own grammar.

In D&C 115:5, the Lord tells the Saints: “Arise and shine forth, that thy light may be a standard for the nations.” The imagery of a gathered, shining Zion to which the nations come is also the imagery of Isaiah 60:1–3: “Arise, shine; for thy light is come … and the Gentiles shall come to thy light.” Therefore, the Gatherer of Light is not gathering for herself; she is helping Zion shine so that others can come.

The menorah and the daily tending of light

The temple resonance of this name is deep and specific. In the ancient Israelite tabernacle and temple, the menorah — the seven-branched lampstand described in Exodus 25:31–40 — had to be tended daily. Leviticus 24:1–4 describes the ner tamid (the “continual lamp”) that had to burn “from evening to morning before the Lord.” Priests gathered and kept the light — trimming wicks, replenishing pure olive oil, ensuring the flame never died. The light was never self-sustaining; it required the daily labor of the faithful.

In the same way, a Gatherer of Light steps into a priestly role of tending that light. Combined with the fact that 16 is the age when temple recommend interviews begin and endowment preparation deepens, this is not an accidental echo. It is the same work translated into a new dispensation. She is not tending a brass menorah — she is tending this light of Christ, in her own life and in others’.

And here the parable she has heard all her life comes into new focus. Matthew 25 adds another layer through the parable of the ten virgins who are all waiting for the Bridegroom. Five are wise because they have gathered oil for their lamps. Instead, it is the parable of a 16-year-old’s covenant life. At this stage, she is also being asked to be among the wise — to gather oil now, in daily small acts, so her lamp will burn when the Bridegroom comes. President Emily Belle Freeman’s bestselling book is, in fact, titled The Ten Virgins — another signal that this imagery is deeply in the mind of the presidency that chose these names.

D&C 50:24 and the trajectory of exaltation

The phrase “brighter and brighter until the perfect day” is not incidental language. It is the scriptural formula for the path of eternal progression itself. It appears again in D&C 88:67: “And if your eye be single to my glory, your whole bodies shall be filled with light … and that body which is filled with light comprehendeth all things.” This name points beyond youth for a stage of youth. She is named for the trajectory of exaltation itself. Her work at 16 and her work at 86 are the same work — gather more light, receive more light, grow brighter until the perfect day.

The parallel passage in D&C 88:6–13 describes the light of Christ as the light “which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed.” It proceeds from the presence of God and fills the immensity of space. It is everywhere — waiting to be recognized and received. In many ways, she lives in a universe already saturated with the thing she is gathering. Her work is perception and reception as much as seeking.

Charity, deferred and prepared for

At this point, remember the earlier observation: the classical triad is faith, hope, and charity — but the new names give us faith, hope, and light. Church leaders intentionally reserve charity for Relief Society. Why?

Because charity — the pure love of Christ, which Moroni 7 describes and which D&C 18:10 grounds in the infinite worth of souls — is the endowment-level gift. It is what flows from covenant temple worship, not what precedes it. The Gatherer of Light is being prepared for charity. Her light-gathering work becomes charity the moment she is endowed and enters Relief Society as the sisterhood of charity. She is not falling short of charity; she is being readied for it with the exact gift it requires — light enough to see as Christ sees.

Taken together, a Builder lays stones.
Then, a Messenger carries cords.
Finally, a Gatherer tends fire. All three are preparing the temple of her life for the day the Lord fills it with His glory.

Part Two: The Aaronic Priesthood Parallel

Why the parallel matters

The Aaronic Priesthood offices in the Church — described in D&C 20:46–60 and D&C 107:85–89, and elaborated in the General Handbook, chapter 30 — are not primarily titles. They are weekly, visible, repeatable actions that become a young man’s identity over time. A deacon is not a boy who has been given a label; he is the one who passes the sacrament every Sunday. After two years of doing it, that verb is him. The office shapes the soul by repetition.

This is, frankly, something the Young Men’s program has long enjoyed that the Young Women’s program has not. Young women have had lessons about virtue, faith, and service — but not a regular, bodily, visible act that the whole ward could see and that a girl would come to know as her own. The 2019 retirement of the old names left a six-year gap with no age-group names at all. The new names close that gap — and if they are to function like the Aaronic Priesthood offices, they need to be paired with actions, not just identities.

What follows is the parallel architecture. The Young Men’s actions are based on scripture and the General Handbook; the Young Women’s parallels are proposed, rooted in the scriptures already given to each age group, and drawn from the spirit of the names themselves.

The three Aaronic Priesthood offices

Deacons (12–13). Pass the sacrament. Collect fast offerings. Care for the meetinghouse. Assist the bishop. The theme is distribution. They carry the emblems of Christ’s body and blood from the sacrament table out to every person in the room. No one in the congregation is reached without them.

Teachers (14–15). All of the above, plus prepare the sacrament — setting the table, breaking the bread, pouring the water. Home ministering. The theme is preparation and accompaniment. They ready the sacred emblems and they go into homes with a companion.

Priests (16–18). All of the above, plus bless the sacrament, baptize, and ordain others to the Aaronic Priesthood. The theme is consecration and covenant. Their words sanctify the emblems; their hands bring others into covenant.

Notice the progression: carry → prepare → sanctify. Each age builds on the last. Each corresponds to a stage in how the sacrament reaches the congregation.

How the New Young Women Names Parallel the Aaronic Priesthood

Builders of Faith (12–13). The deacon makes sure no one is missed as the emblems pass. At this age, she begins to makes sure no one is without a place to stand. Both are foundational, distributive acts: the deacon distributes the emblems of Christ; the Builder distributes belonging in Christ’s house.

Messengers of Hope (14–15). The teacher prepares what the deacon will distribute, and goes into homes. The Messenger of Hope prepares, too — she prepares comfort — and she also goes. Where the teacher breaks bread at the sacrament table, she breaks bread at kitchen tables where grief sits. The covenant of Mosiah 18 is the ministering covenant made visible.

Gatherers of Light (16+). Priests sanctify emblems and bring others into covenant. The Gatherer of Light cannot perform ordinances, but she does something structurally parallel: she prepares herself and others for the temple, which is the fullness of covenant. At 16, temple recommend interviews change, baptisms for the dead deepen, endowment is on the horizon. Her work is covenant-preparation — her own and others’. And through family history and indexing, she does something priests cannot yet do alone: she gathers the names of the dead for whom ordinances will be performed. She is the scout of the covenant.

For clarity, the parallel at a glance

Age Young Men (Aaronic Priesthood) Young Women (New Age-Group Names)
12–13 DeaconsDistribute the emblems of Christ’s body. Collect fast offerings. Care for the meetinghouse. Builders of FaithDistribute belonging and presence. Build the foundation — no one without a place to stand.
14–15 TeachersPrepare the emblems. Minister in homes. Accompany. Messengers of HopePrepare comfort. Carry the tikvah-cord. Go into lives of the grieving.
16–18 PriestsSanctify the emblems. Baptize. Ordain. Bring others into covenant. Gatherers of LightGather light in self and others. Tend the flame. Prepare self and others for temple covenant.
Arc Carry → Prepare → Sanctify Build → Comfort → Gather

Both young men and young women are doing priestly work in the broadest scriptural sense — one through ordinance, the other through ministry, witness, and covenant-preparation. Both are indispensable to the life of the ward. Neither is complete without the other. This is not a consolation prize for the girls; it is the other half of the covenant community.

Part Three: Weekly, Visible, Repeatable Actions

The deepest parallel between the Young Men’s and Young Women’s programs is this: both roles become identity only through repetition. A deacon becomes who he is by passing the sacrament every Sunday for two years. If the new Young Women names are to function the same way, each age group needs one or two weekly, visible, repeatable actions — not a lesson about building, but actually building, every week.

The actions below are proposals, not a program. Leaders, parents, and the young women themselves should pick one or two per age group and make them consistent. A girl who greets someone new every Sunday for two years will be a Builder of Faith when she graduates to Messenger. The girl who writes a note of comfort every week for two years will be a Messenger of Hope. A girl who names three places she saw light every week for two years will be a Gatherer of Light.

Builders of Faith (12–13) ↔ Deacons

The Young Men theme is to carry Christ’s body to every person.
Meanwhile, the Young Women theme is to build the foundation that holds the community.

Ordinance parallel: the deacon passes bread; she passes presence.

Action ideas

  • The Cornerstone Greeting. Every Sunday, each Builder is assigned one person (rotating) to personally greet and sit near — especially someone new, visiting, struggling, or alone. The deacon’s tray reaches every row; her presence reaches every person. This is her weekly ordinance-parallel.

 

  • Meetinghouse care. She participates in meetinghouse care alongside the deacons — setting up chairs, cleaning classrooms, preparing the foyer. Ephesians 2 is literally about building a house for God. She helps build the literal house, too.

 

  • The foundation note. Each week she writes one short note — to a ministering sister her family watches over, to a Primary child, to a Relief Society sister, to a grandparent. The deacon’s tray reaches every row on Sunday; her notes reach someone every week.

 

  • Pre-class setup. She arrives early and sets up the Young Women room — chairs arranged, lesson materials ready, a welcoming space for whoever walks in. Builders arrive before the building is used.

 

  • Fast offering accompaniment. In wards where fast offerings are still collected in person, she walks with the deacons at an appropriate distance and helps afterward with organizing what was given. The deacon collects what sustains the poor; she witnesses and participates in that sacred accounting.

 

  • Primary partner. Pair each Builder of Faith with a Primary child — she sits with them in Primary once a month, brings them to Young Women for a visit, writes them birthday notes. She is literally building up the next generation beneath her.

 

  • The builder’s journal. She keeps a small, simple journal titled “The House I’m Building” — one sentence each Sunday about one thing she did to build the kingdom. Two years of Sundays is 104 stones.

Spiritual logic: Ephesians 2 is about making the stranger into a household member. Her weekly act is turning strangers into household.

Messengers of Hope (14–15) ↔ Teachers

Young Men theme: prepare the emblems; go into homes.

Young Women theme: prepare comfort; sit with the sorrowing; carry the cord.

Ordinance parallel: the teacher breaks bread at the altar; she breaks bread at kitchen tables where grief sits.

Action ideas

  • They can serve in real ministering partnerships, visiting or contacting specific sisters in the ward alongside an adult Relief Society sister. Like teachers who go into homes, they bring comfort and connection.

  • Also, they can carry the tikvah thread by keeping a list of people facing hardship—illness, loss, stress, or transition—and doing one tangible act each week: sending a text, writing a note, bringing a meal, or simply showing up. In this way, they become a lifeline of hope.

  • Instead of only receiving comfort, they can prepare it. Just as teachers prepare the sacrament, Messengers of Hope can prepare meals or small acts of care for families in need, “breaking bread” in homes where sorrow lives.

  • They can also serve during funerals by setting up, serving meals, greeting family members, or helping with children. These moments make the Mosiah 18 covenant visible.

  • A witness notebook can help them record moments they see God’s hand in someone’s life and then share that witness. This turns ministering into testimony.

  • They may welcome new move-ins with Relief Society sisters, helping others feel at home quickly. They can also minister to a younger Builder of Faith, offering friendship, encouragement, and example.

  • Finally, they can practice a hidden fast once a month for someone they serve—quietly standing as a witness before God.

  • Just as teachers prepare the sacrament so grace can be distributed, Messengers of Hope prepare comfort so burdens can be shared and hope can grow.

Spiritual logic: A teacher prepares the sacrament so grace can be distributed. She prepares the conditions under which grief can be borne.

Gatherers of Light (16+) ↔ Priests

  • The Young Men theme: bless, baptize, bring others into covenant.
  • Young Women theme: seek, gather, and reflect the light; draw strength from sacred covenants; prepare self and others for the temple.

Ordinance parallel: the priest sanctifies the emblems so others can partake. She sanctifies her own life so others can gather light.

Action ideas

  • They can attend the temple regularly with purpose—bringing family names, helping with baptisms for the dead, and inviting younger girls when appropriate. Through family history, indexing, and using FamilySearch, they literally gather scattered souls across generations and help prepare ordinances for the dead.

 

  • Also, they can mentor younger Young Women, offering weekly or bi-weekly encouragement and guidance. In addition, they may lead scripture studies, share devotionals, or teach younger groups, becoming examples through both testimony and action.

 

  • As public witnesses, they can speak in sacrament meeting, bear testimony at youth events, and share their spiritual experiences openly. Each week, they might keep a “light inventory,” writing down moments they saw God’s light in scripture, prayer, or in others, then sharing one of those moments.

  • Preparation for future covenants is also central. They can intentionally study the temple and sacred covenants with a parent or mentor. Likewise, they can prepare for missionary service through language study, service, gospel study, and learning practical discipleship skills.

  • Two symbolic practices can make discipleship tangible. The oil jar—a journal or list of faithful acts—helps them “gather oil” like the wise virgins in Matthew 25. The menorah practice invites one daily habit that tends the flame, such as prayer, scripture study, journaling, or ministering.

Spiritual logic: Priests sanctify the emblems so others can partake. She sanctifies her own life so others can see — and gather — light.

Part Four: Reflection

What’s gained, what’s lost

It is worth naming, honestly, the tradeoffs. The older names — Beehive, Mia Maid, Laurel — had deep personal and heritage meaning for generations of Latter-day Saint women. The beehive especially tied to Deseret, to the pioneer founding story, to a specific Latter-day Saint aesthetic rooted in American-western soil. The new names are more universal but less particular. They will translate better in Tahiti, in Ghana, in Brazil — but they do not evoke the specific soil of the Restoration the way the old ones did. Something real is lost there, and it is appropriate to honor that.

What’s gained is significant. Action-oriented identity (doing rather than being). International translatability (Beehive was a very American symbol; Gatherer is not culturally bound). Scriptural density (each name carries an assigned scripture the old names did not). Clearer progression (each name builds on the last rather than being three parallel metaphors). And — perhaps most importantly — structural alignment with the priesthood, so that young women and young men now share a naming logic: you are what you do, in covenant.

A tension worth sitting with

President Freeman has said that “finding identity is one of the greatest desires of young women of this generation.” The new names answer that by assigning identity through role and action. A thoughtful observer might ask: does identity-by-assignment (“you are a Messenger of Hope because you turned 14”) function the same as identity-by-discovery?

The Latter-day Saint answer, if we take our theology seriously, is: covenantal identity is always received, not self-generated. That’s the whole point. A deacon does not choose to be a deacon; he is called, set apart, and given a work. The work then becomes him. That same structure now applies to the young women. This is not diminishment — it is the same grammar of covenant that scripture has always used.

The absence of charity

The triad stops short of charity. This is deliberate. The Young Women progression is preparatory to the fullness of covenantal womanhood — and charity, as Moroni 7:47 defines it, is the pure love of Christ, the gift bestowed upon “all who are true followers of his Son, Jesus Christ.” Charity is what she graduates into when she enters Relief Society — the sisterhood named for it.

Think of it this way: a Builder lays stones, a Messenger carries cords, a Gatherer tends fire. All three are preparing the temple of her own life for the day the Lord fills it with His glory — for the day she receives her endowment, enters the sisterhood of charity, and the gift of love becomes the air she lives in.

One final thought

Young men have long been allowed to see themselves not as symbols of virtue but as people whose lives have a shape and a job. Deacons pass. Teachers prepare. Priests sanctify. The new Young Women names finally offer the same clarity. Builders build. Messengers carry. Gatherers gather. Both halves of the covenant community are now named for what they do — and both are doing the work of Christ.

Give the young women something to do every week that matches their name,
and the name will become who they are.
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Part Five: Sources and Scripture Index

Primary Latter-day Saint sources

1. Church Newsroom, “New Young Women Age-Group Names Emphasize Faith, Hope, and Light” (April 20, 2026). Official announcement and FAQ.
2. First Presidency letter, summarized in Church News, “First Presidency announces new names for Young Women groups” (April 20, 2026).
3. Deseret News, “Q&A: New Young Women age-group names” (April 20, 2026). Five key clarifications about how the new names function in wards.
4. Church Historian’s Press, Carry On: The Latter-day Saint Young Women Organization, 1870–2024 (2025). Comprehensive history of the Young Women organization and its previous class names.
5. “As Sisters in Zion,” Hymn 309. The hymn President Emily Belle Freeman identified as the inspiration for the three names during the 2025 For the Strength of Youth conference in Tahiti.
6. General Handbook, Chapter 30: “Aaronic Priesthood” and Chapter 11: “Young Women”.

Scripture index

Primary scriptural anchors

7. Ephesians 2:19–22 — cornerstone, household of God as temple. Builders of Faith.
8. Mosiah 18:8–10 — baptismal covenant, mourning with those that mourn. Messengers of Hope.
9. Doctrine and Covenants 50:24 — light brighter and brighter until the perfect day. Gatherers of Light.

Light and the path of exaltation

10. Doctrine and Covenants 88:6–13 — the light of Christ filling the immensity of space.
11. Doctrine and Covenants 88:67 — the eye single to God’s glory, the body filled with light.
12. Matthew 5:14–16 — ye are the light of the world, a city set on a hill.
13. John 8:12 — “I am the light of the world.”
14. Isaiah 60:1–3 — “Arise, shine; for thy light is come.”
15. Doctrine and Covenants 115:5 — “Arise and shine forth, that thy light may be a standard for the nations.”
16. Matthew 25:1–13 — the ten virgins and the gathered oil.
17. Exodus 25:31–40 — pattern of the menorah in the tabernacle.
18. Leviticus 24:1–4 — the daily tending of the continual lamp.

Gathering and covenant

19. Matthew 23:37 — the Savior’s “how oft would I have gathered.”
20. 3 Nephi 10:4–6 — the same language spoken to the Nephites.
21. Doctrine and Covenants 18:10 — “the worth of souls is great.”
22. Doctrine and Covenants 20:46–60 — duties of the Aaronic Priesthood offices.
23. Doctrine and Covenants 107:85–89 — the offices of deacon, teacher, priest, and bishop.

Cornerstones and foundations

24. Isaiah 28:16 — the tried and precious corner stone.
25. Psalm 118:22 — the stone the builders refused.

Hope as tikvah

26. Joshua 2:18 — Rahab’s scarlet cord (tikvat shani). First biblical appearance of tikvah.
27. Proverbs 23:18 — “thy hope (tikvah) shall not be cut off.”
28. Jeremiah 31:17 — “there is hope (tikvah) in thine end.”
29. Hebrews 11:31 — Rahab’s faith remembered in the New Testament.

Messengers and mourning women

30. Jeremiah 9:17–20 — the cunning (wise) mourning women of Israel.
31. 2 Samuel 14 — the wise woman of Tekoah sent as messenger to the king.
32. Malachi 3:1 — “Behold, I will send my messenger (malakh).”
33. Luke 1:17 — John the Baptist in the spirit and power of Elias.

Charity as the Relief Society destination

34. 1 Corinthians 13 — Paul on charity.
35. Moroni 7:45–48 — Mormon on charity, the pure love of Christ.
36. Doctrine and Covenants 25 — revelation to Emma Smith on the role of an elect lady in Zion.
37. Isaiah 54:13 — “All thy children shall be taught of the Lord.”

Secondary and scholarly sources

Rabbinic and ancient Hebrew context

38. Talmud, Berakhot 64a:13–14 (Sefaria). The rabbinic wordplay banayikh / bonayikh — “do not read your children, but your builders.” Source of the builders/children homily.
39. Isaiah 54:13 with Jewish Thought (Sefaria). Jewish interpretive tradition on Isaiah 54:13 and the covenant-builder motif.
40. Joshua 2:18 (Hebrew text with commentaries) (Sefaria). The first biblical appearance of tikvah as scarlet cord.

Hebrew word studies

41. “Tikvah: Cling to Hope — A Hebrew Word Study,” International Christian Embassy Jerusalem. On the Hebrew root qavah (to bind, twist, wait) and tikvah as a woven cord of hope.
42. “Malakh and Angel,” Balashon (Hebrew Language Detective). On the Hebrew malakh (messenger) and its relationship to angelos in Greek. Documents the 124 divine / 88 human messenger split in the Hebrew Bible.
43. “Angels in Judaism,” Wikipedia (well-sourced overview). On mal’akh as the standard Hebrew word for messenger — human or divine.

Temple and menorah background

44. “Menorah (Temple),” Wikipedia. On the daily priestly tending of the temple menorah — wicks, oil, and the ner tamid (continual lamp).

For further reflection

A few threads worth pulling on further, each of which could be the subject of its own study:

  • First, the parallel between the tikvah-cord (a cord that binds to covenant) and the temple garments (a covering that marks covenant). Both are things worn or held that signal belonging.
  • Second, consider the theology of Isaiah 54—the barren woman whose children will be more than the stars — as the matriarchal subtext of the Builders of Faith. She builds because Zion is promised children she cannot yet see.
  • Another question worth exploring is why the Church has moved from identity-as-symbol (Beehive, Laurel) to identity-as-action (Builder, Gatherer) in an era when young women’s identities are most contested in the broader culture.
  • One more thing is the explicit temple resonance — cornerstones, menorahs, covenants — in all three names, read against the age progression of temple recommend interviews from 11 to 16 and beyond.
  • Finally, the structural theology of charity being held back until Relief Society: what does it mean to be in training for love?

May these reflections be useful in helping young women — and all of us — see the depth of what the Lord is doing in calling His daughters Builders. Messengers. Gatherers. May the names become lives. And may the lives become the house, the cord, and the light.