by Jack Mormon | Jul 21, 2025 | Church Finances
Bottom Line
There’s no evidence the Church wanted to hide its reserves from members. It simply didn’t publish full balance sheets — a common religious practice. The rest is narrative spin. Without a verifiable quote, this framing falls apart.
Podcast |
YouTube – Alyssa Grenfell |
Episode |
“How the Mormon Church Secretly Built a $293 Billion Fortune” |
Title |
“The Church doesn’t want people to know it controls $293 billion” |
Category |
Church Wealth & Financial Framing |
Quote |
“The Mormon Church doesn’t want people to know that it controls $293 billion. It doesn’t want its own members to know. But now they do.” |
Core Claim |
The LDS Church intentionally hid its $293 billion in financial holdings not only from the public, but from its own members. |
Conclusion |
False / Conspiratorial Framing with Misleading Certainty |
Logical Questions |
- Has the Church actively suppressed knowledge of its assets?
- Is there evidence that members were intentionally deceived?
- Was $293 billion confirmed or independently verified?
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🔍 Core Finding
This claim assumes not only secrecy but intentional deception, which is not supported by any direct quote or evidence from Church leaders. The Church has long acknowledged its investments and reserves — what’s debated is the total amount, not the existence of funds.
💰 Transparency and Doctrine
The Church teaches financial self-reliance and has always encouraged members to save for the long term. Leaders such as President Gordon B. Hinckley and President Russell M. Nelson have repeatedly discussed wise financial preparation.
📊 Ensign Peak and the SEC
In 2023, the SEC fined Ensign Peak for disclosure violations — not for fraud or misuse. The Church settled and took responsibility for using shell companies to file required disclosures, but no member funds were misused, and the investment practices were legal.
📚 Sources
by Jack Mormon | Jul 21, 2025 | Book of Mormon
Bottom Line
The Book of Mormon records violence. But it doesn’t justify it. It mourns it. Its final prophet, Moroni, is a lone survivor — not a victor. Genocide isn’t glorified — it’s grieved. The message is clear: spiritual pride destroys civilizations. That warning still applies.
Podcast |
YouTube Alyssa Grenfall |
Episode |
“Evidence the Book of Mormon Is False” |
Title |
“The Book of Mormon promotes genocide and religious violence” |
Category |
Ethical Objections & Narrative Themes |
Quote |
“This is a book that glorifies genocide, warfare, and religiously justified killing. What kind of God commands you to slaughter entire civilizations?” — 01:39:12 |
Core Claim |
The Book of Mormon is violent and morally repugnant — portraying God as sanctioning the slaughter of nonbelievers and glorifying military conquest. |
Claim Type |
Partial Truth / Stripped of Context |
Logical Questions |
- Does the Book of Mormon glorify violence or use it to teach moral principles?
- Are the wars described justified, lamented, or condemned?
- How does the narrative treat the humanity of the “enemies”?
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🔍 Core Finding
Yes, the Book of Mormon contains warfare and destruction — but it never glorifies genocide. It portrays war as a tragic consequence of pride, rebellion, and moral decay. The final chapters are filled with mourning, not celebration.
“O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord!”
— Mormon 6:17
🛡️ Wars Are Defensive, Not Aggressive
Captain Moroni is the model general — not a conqueror. He fights to preserve liberty and refuses to pursue bloodthirsty campaigns. The Anti-Nephi-Lehies lay down their weapons and refuse to fight. Mormon himself condemns the Nephites when they seek vengeance.
“I was forbidden to preach unto them… the Lord had withdrawn His Spirit.”
— Mormon 3:14–16
📖 Lamanites: Not Villains — Covenant People
- Samuel the Lamanite is a prophet.
- Multiple chapters promise the redemption of the Lamanites (2 Nephi 30:6, 3 Nephi 21).
- They are repeatedly described as beloved children of God — not enemies to be exterminated.
📚 Ancient Scripture Includes Violent History
The Bible contains divine judgments, battles, and destruction. The Book of Mormon mirrors that literary and theological tradition — using war to teach moral decay and prophetic justice, not to celebrate violence.
📚 Sources
by Jack Mormon | Jul 21, 2025 | Book of Mormon
Bottom Line
The Book of Mormon’s use of the King James Bible is open, intentional, and theologically consistent. It claims to be another witness of Christ — not a standalone scripture. If God spoke to Nephi and Isaiah, it makes sense their revelations would sound the same. That’s not plagiarism. That’s the pattern of scripture.
Podcast |
YouTube Alyssa Grenfell |
Episode |
“Evidence the Book of Mormon Is False” |
Title |
“The Book of Mormon plagiarizes the King James Bible” |
Category |
Translation & Textual Origin |
Quote |
“Mosiah 14 is just a word-for-word copy of Isaiah 53. Third Nephi 13 copies Matthew 6 almost word for word. This is clearly plagiarism.” — 01:51:06 |
Core Claim |
The Book of Mormon is a fraud because it contains long passages copied directly from the King James Version of the Bible. |
Conclusion |
True (KJV Used) / Misrepresented Intent |
Logical Questions |
- Does quoting the KJV Bible mean the Book of Mormon is fraudulent?
- What does the Book of Mormon claim about receiving the same revelations in different nations?
- How do Latter-day Saint scholars explain the use of KJV language?
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🔍 Core Findings
Yes, the Book of Mormon includes extended quotations from the KJV Bible. Isaiah, Malachi, and Matthew are prominent examples. But the text explicitly says that God gives the same revelations to different nations — and these teachings are included intentionally, not deceptively.
“God speaketh the same words unto all nations.”
— 2 Nephi 29:8
The Book of Mormon even tells readers why Isaiah is quoted so extensively:
“I did liken all scriptures unto us, that it might be for our profit and learning.”
— 1 Nephi 19:23
🧠 Why the KJV Language?
Joseph Smith and his audience knew and revered the King James Bible. Using that language made the text spiritually familiar. Scholars like Royal Skousen argue that the translation came through revelation but used Joseph’s biblical register to express sacred ideas.
“Translation is not about word-for-word equivalence, but about expressing sacred meaning in the hearer’s language.”
— Royal Skousen, The Earliest Text
📝 What About Italicized Words and KJV Errors?
Yes, even KJV artifacts like italicized words show up. But that may reflect the Lord using the language Joseph knew best to transmit ideas. This matches how revelation often comes in the language and capacity of the receiver (see D&C 1:24).
🔄 Are Repeated Scriptures Always Plagiarism?
The Bible quotes itself repeatedly. Christ quotes Isaiah. Paul quotes Psalms. The New Testament repeats Old Testament prophecies word-for-word. Using earlier scripture doesn’t imply deception — it shows continuity of God’s voice.
📚 Sources
- Book of Mormon: Mosiah 14 (Isaiah 53), 3 Nephi 13 (Matthew 6), 2 Nephi 29:8, 1 Nephi 19:23
- Royal Skousen, The Book of Mormon: The Earliest Text, Yale University Press (2009)
- Grant Hardy, Understanding the Book of Mormon, Oxford University Press (2010)
- John W. Welch, “Why Does the Book of Mormon Quote the KJV?”, Ensign, Sept. 1977
- Mormoner.org – Bible Quotations in the Book of Mormon
by Jack Mormon | Jul 21, 2025 | Book of Mormon
Bottom Line
No, “Reformed Egyptian” isn’t listed in modern language textbooks. But it was never supposed to be. It was described as a sacred, evolving script unique to a small religious elite. Its absence in today’s linguistic record doesn’t disprove it — it aligns with exactly what the Book of Mormon claimed.
Podcast |
YouTube Alyssa Grenfell |
Episode |
“Evidence the Book of Mormon Is False” |
Title |
“Reformed Egyptian is a made-up language” |
Category |
Linguistics & Translation |
Quote |
“He said the Book of Mormon was written in Reformed Egyptian, and that’s a made-up language.” — 00:03:23 |
Core Claim |
The Book of Mormon claims to be written in “Reformed Egyptian,” which critics argue is not a real language and was invented by Joseph Smith. |
Conclusion |
Claim is Partial Truth / Misleading Framing |
Logical Questions |
- Is “Reformed Egyptian” a known historical language?
- Does its absence from modern linguistics mean it was invented?
- What did the Book of Mormon actually claim about it?
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🔍 Core Finding
The Book of Mormon never claims “Reformed Egyptian” was a widespread, institutionalized language. Instead, it explicitly states that this script was modified over time by the Nephite record keepers and may not have been readable by other cultures. That’s not the same as “made up.”
“We have written this record in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian… but the Lord knoweth the things which we have written.”
— Mormon 9:32
📚 Ancient Parallels
Many small ancient cultures used hybrid or localized scripts for record keeping and ritual purposes:
- Demotic evolved from Egyptian hieratic, which itself evolved from hieroglyphics.
- Ugaritic cuneiform was unknown until the 20th century.
- Minoan Linear A remains undeciphered despite decades of research.
“The concept of a modified Egyptian script adapted by a specific population is entirely consistent with ancient scribal practices.”
— John Gee, Egyptologist, Interpreter, 2014
🧠 A Misleading Standard
Critics demand that “Reformed Egyptian” show up in modern archaeology. But the Book of Mormon itself says no other people knew the language:
“…none other people know our language.” — Mormon 9:34
Expecting modern corroboration of a script the book claims was lost is circular reasoning. Ancient languages are often rediscovered centuries later — or never at all.
🪪 What Did Joseph Smith Mean?
There is no record of Joseph Smith claiming that “Reformed Egyptian” was recognized by scholars. He never promoted it outside the Book of Mormon text. He admitted he could not read the characters and translated by the gift of God.
📚 Sources
- Book of Mormon, Mormon 9:32–34; 1 Nephi 1:2
- John Gee, “The ‘Breathing Permit of Hôr’ among the Joseph Smith Papyri,” Interpreter, Vol. 1, 2012
- Royal Skousen, The Book of Mormon: The Earliest Text (Yale, 2009)
- Paul Hoskisson, “Reformed Egyptian,” Book of Mormon Reference Companion, 2003
- Mormoner.org – Reformed Egyptian Overview
by Jack Mormon | Jul 21, 2025 | Book of Mormon
Bottom Line
There is no smoking-gun “Zarahemla tablet,” but the claim that there is “literally nothing” is false. Nahom alone defies that claim. Mesoamerican evidence aligns with dozens of textual features. The real question is not “is there nothing?” but “are we willing to evaluate the data fairly?”
Episode |
“Evidence the Book of Mormon Is False” |
Title |
“There is zero archaeological evidence for the Book of Mormon” |
Category |
Archaeology & Historicity |
Quote |
“There’s never, ever been a single piece of archaeological evidence to support the Book of Mormon. Literally nothing.” — 00:19:41 |
Timestamp |
00:19:41 |
Core Claim |
The Book of Mormon has zero supporting archaeological evidence; no cities, places, names, or artifacts have ever been discovered. |
Conclusion |
False / Overstated |
Logical Questions |
- Is it true that no archaeological evidence supports the Book of Mormon?
- Are there locations or findings that match descriptions in the Book of Mormon?
- Does lack of mainstream consensus mean there is “literally nothing”?
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🔍 Core Findings
The claim that there is “literally nothing” to support the Book of Mormon archaeologically is inaccurate and misleading. It ignores significant findings in both the Old and New Worlds that align with Book of Mormon descriptions.
🧭 Key Evidence from the Old World: Nahom
1 Nephi 16:34 references “Nahom,” where Ishmael was buried. In 1994, archaeologists discovered ancient altars in Yemen inscribed with the tribal name “NHM” — matching both name and location. These date to the correct time period for Lehi’s journey and confirm a key waypoint on the route.
“This is the first direct archaeological correlation with a specific location mentioned in the Book of Mormon.”
— S. Kent Brown, BYU Studies, 2002
🗺️ Mesoamerican Correlations
Dozens of cultural and geographic details in the Book of Mormon — including cities, roads, markets, warfare, and natural disasters — align with Mesoamerican civilizations. No definitive site has been found, but the limited geography model shows high consistency with the text.
“The Book of Mormon’s setting—based on city sizes, travel distances, topography, and climate—best fits a limited geography in Mesoamerica.”
— John L. Sorenson, An Ancient American Setting
🔎 Why No Confirming Names?
The absence of direct inscriptions (e.g., “Zarahemla was here”) is expected:
- Ancient cities were renamed or destroyed.
- Records were hidden, destroyed (Mormon 6–8), or looted.
- Archaeology rarely preserves tribal or scriptural names unless carved in stone.
📚 Sources
- S. Kent Brown, “Nahom and the ‘Eastward’ Turn,” BYU Studies 42.2 (2003)
- Warren P. Aston, Lehi and Sariah in Arabia (2015)
- John L. Sorenson, An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon (1985)
- Mark A. Wright, “Heartland as Hinterland,” Interpreter Vol. 13 (2015)
- Mormoner.org – Nahom Archaeology