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Did Joseph Smith Promise Salvation in Exchange for a 14-Year-Old Bride? Mormon Stories Claims

Did Joseph Smith Promise Salvation in Exchange for a 14-Year-Old Bride? Mormon Stories Claims

Bottom Line

Joseph Smith’s sealing to Helen Mar Kimball was difficult, doctrinal, and ethically uncomfortable — especially due to her age. But there is no record that she, or her parents, considered it forced, fraudulent, or abusive. If we accept their testimonies, we must grapple with a hard truth: this wasn’t trafficking — it was religious sacrifice, however foreign that looks today.

Podcast Mormon Stories
Episode “Did Joseph Smith Engage in Human Trafficking?” (Ep. 1794)
Title Did Joseph Smith Promise Salvation in Exchange for a 14-Year-Old Bride?
Category Historical Polygamy / Coercion & Spiritual Abuse
Quote “Joseph Smith is offering Heber C. Kimball eternal salvation and exaltation… in exchange for his 14-year-old daughter.” — John Dehlin, 01:56:58
Core Claim Joseph Smith manipulated Heber C. Kimball into giving him his 14-year-old daughter Helen Mar Kimball as a plural wife, by promising exaltation for the family — a form of spiritual bribery and coercion.
Conclusion Partial Truth / Ethically Troubling but Not Forced
Logical Questions
  • Did Joseph Smith explicitly promise salvation in exchange for Helen Mar Kimball?
  • Did Helen or her parents report being coerced, deceived, or forced?
  • What did Helen herself say about her choice, and does it reflect fraud or trauma?

🔍 Core Findings

🧭 The Alleged “Bargain”: Marriage for Salvation

This accusation stems from a widely cited passage in Helen Mar Kimball’s later writings where she recalled Joseph promising:

“If you take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father’s household and all of your kindred.”
— Helen Mar Kimball Whitney, Why We Practice Plural Marriage (1884)

Critics frame this as a quid pro quo: a teenage girl exchanged for heavenly reward. The language is uncomfortable, yes. But it’s essential to examine how Helen understood this offer — and whether she considered herself a victim.

📜 Did Helen Say She Was Forced or Tricked?

Helen Mar Kimball was 14 years old at the time of her sealing to Joseph. That age is deeply problematic by today’s standards. But she was not a random, uninformed girl. She was:

  • The daughter of a top Church leader (Heber C. Kimball)
  • Raised in a home familiar with intense religious sacrifice
  • Offered the chance to seek her own spiritual witness

She later described spiritual difficulty and emotional struggle — but she never claimed to be physically forced or spiritually deceived.

“I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than a ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me by saying the salvation of our whole family depended upon it.”
— Reported in Catherine Lewis, Narrative of Some of the Proceedings of the Mormons (1853)

This quote is often used as evidence of regret. But Helen also defended plural marriage in her adult life — and she never described herself as coerced. She accepted the sealing as a sacred principle once she matured in faith.

🤝 Was Her Father Manipulated?

Heber C. Kimball did arrange the sealing. Critics describe it as a “trade,” and Helen used the metaphor of being the “lamb laid on the altar.” But again, this reflects a deeply religious worldview — not a criminal transaction.

No historical record indicates that Heber felt “bribed” or “defrauded.” To him, sacrificing for the gospel — even with his family — was a sacred Abrahamic principle, not extortion.

“This principle was established by the Prophet Joseph Smith… for the purpose of raising a righteous seed.”
— Helen Mar Whitney, Plural Marriage as Taught by the Prophet Joseph Smith

⚖️ Ethical vs. Criminal

Let’s be clear: sealing a 14-year-old to a 37-year-old is ethically problematic by today’s standards. Even Brigham Young later discouraged similar age gaps. But to call it coercion or fraud collapses under historical scrutiny:

  • Helen’s testimony reflects religious belief, not deceit.
  • She later wrote of her sealing in terms of sacrifice and faith — not trauma or betrayal.
  • Neither she nor her parents described the offer as a spiritual bribe.

“The promise of salvation in exchange for obedience to plural marriage was doctrinal, not transactional. All temple covenants include conditional promises. This does not constitute trafficking or fraud.”
Mormoner.org – Helen Mar Kimball Case Study

📚 Sources

Did Joseph Smith Engage in Human Trafficking? Mormon Stories Outrageous Claims Ep. 1794

Did Joseph Smith Engage in Human Trafficking? Mormon Stories Outrageous Claims Ep. 1794

Bottom Line:

Accusing Joseph Smith of sex trafficking is not just legally inaccurate — it’s historically reckless. His plural marriages were religious, not commercial. Women were not exchanged for money, nor held against their will. Even if modern audiences find 19th-century polygamy disturbing, it simply does not meet the criteria for sex trafficking under U.S. law. To equate the two trivializes real human trafficking — and erases the actual voices of the women involved.

Podcast Mormon Stories
Episode “Did Joseph Smith Engage in Human Trafficking?” (Ep. 1794)
Title Did Joseph Smith’s Polygamy Qualify as Sex Trafficking?
Category Historical Polygamy / Legal Accusation
Quote “What we’re asking is a legitimate question: was Joseph Smith’s behavior in Nauvoo something that would qualify under today’s standards for human trafficking?” — John Dehlin,
Core Claim Joseph Smith’s practice of polygamy, including recruiting converts from Europe and marrying young or vulnerable women, would qualify as sex trafficking under modern U.S. legal definitions.
Conclusion The Claim is False / Legally Misapplied
Logical Questions
  • Does Joseph Smith’s religious polygamy meet the legal elements of sex trafficking under U.S. federal law?
  • Did the women he married describe themselves as coerced or trafficked?
  • Are 19th-century marriages equivalent to modern criminal acts involving force, fraud, or commercial sex?

🔍 Core Rebuttal

⚖️ What Is Legally Considered Sex Trafficking?

According to the U.S. Department of Justice and the Trafficking Victims Protection Act (TVPA), sex trafficking requires:

  1. A commercial sex act;
  2. Obtained through force, fraud, or coercion;
  3. OR, if the person is under 18, any commercial sex act, regardless of coercion.

Critically, “commercial” means for monetary or financial benefit. Marriage — even with sex — does not qualify unless money, goods, or services are exchanged for the sexual activity (see DOJ TVPA Guidelines, 22 U.S.C. § 7102(11)).

“Though many modern scholars criticize polygamy on moral or ethical grounds, it does not meet the statutory definition of sex trafficking without clear evidence of commercial exchange or criminal coercion.”
Mormoner.org

👨‍⚖️ What About “Spiritual Coercion”?

The panel claims that Joseph’s sealing proposals — especially promises of salvation — are equivalent to force or coercion under modern law. But this is a serious misapplication:

  • Religious influence is not equivalent to legal force.
  • The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly protected religious assent as voluntary, even when countercultural (Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990)).

Did Joseph Smith exert strong religious influence? Yes. But influence is not coercion unless backed by threat of violence or restraint — which no woman ever accused him of.

“He asked me to pray and get my own witness. I did, and I received a calm, sweet peace that never left me.”
— Lucy Walker, Affidavit, 1902 [source]

🔍 Were There Trafficking “Networks”?

The podcast suggests Joseph Smith orchestrated a trafficking operation through missionaries who “recruited” vulnerable European converts to Nauvoo under false pretenses. But that claim ignores several facts:

  • Women traveled voluntarily as converts, not as sex slaves.
  • The Nauvoo Expositor used trafficking rhetoric for political exposé, not legal accusation.
  • There is no evidence that women were chained, sold, exchanged for money, or imprisoned — all required elements for trafficking cases.

Even critics like Todd Compton (In Sacred Loneliness) describe the relationships as emotionally and spiritually complex, not exploitative transactions.

🤝 What Did the Women Say?

The podcast repeatedly ignores the words of the women themselves:

  • Zina Huntington described her sealing as divinely confirmed.
  • Helen Mar Kimball later defended plural marriage as a revealed principle.
  • Emily Partridge admitted to conjugal relations with Joseph, but never accused him of abuse.

Their full testimonies are preserved at JosephSmithsPolygamy.org and Mormoner.org.

 

📚 Sources

Joseph Smith Was a Grooming Predator – Claims by Mormonism Discussion Inc.

Joseph Smith Was a Grooming Predator – Claims by Mormonism Discussion Inc.

Bottom Line:

Framing Joseph Smith as a sexual predator using modern grooming standards is intellectually lazy and ethically dangerous. It imposes today’s moral frameworks on a world that operated by very different standards. The women involved were not passive victims—they were spiritual agents acting on faith, conviction, and choice. Their voices, not today’s trauma-informed speculation, deserve to be heard.

Podcast Mormon Discussion  Inc,
Episode “Predatory Techniques of Mormonism’s Prophet Joseph Smith”
Category Historical Polygamy / Abuse Allegation
Quote “We’re not here to cherry-pick… What we are doing is examining a pattern—a consistent, documented pattern of behavior… put side by side with what we know and understand about grooming, spiritual coercion, and predatory behavior.” — Bill Reel, 00:00:33
Core Claim Joseph Smith’s plural marriages match the U.S. Department of Justice’s definitions of grooming, suggesting that he was a sexual predator who exploited vulnerable girls and women under the guise of revelation.
Conclusion The Claim is False / Conjecture
Logical Questions
  • Does Joseph Smith’s 19th-century polygamy fit a modern legal or psychological definition of grooming?
  • Are there contemporaneous accusations of sexual predation by Joseph Smith from reliable sources?
  • Can the spiritual convictions of Joseph’s plural wives be dismissed as coercion simply because they were young or vulnerable?

🔍 Core Findings

⚖️ Modern Definitions ≠ 19th-Century Religious Practice

The hosts conflate 21st-century legal definitions of grooming—which involve deception, secrecy, and predatory manipulation of minors—with religiously-motivated plural marriage in a 19th-century theocratic community. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, grooming includes isolating, gaining trust, and exploiting children for sexual purposes. While troubling if applied today, this framework cannot be reliably retrofitted to historical religious practices.

As Richard L. Bushman explains in Rough Stone Rolling, Joseph’s marriages were often “dynastic and symbolic” and did not resemble modern romantic or exploitative relationships (Bushman, p. 439). Moreover, the average age of marriage for women in frontier America hovered around 18–20, and marriage below that age, though rare, was not viewed as inherently abusive in that culture.

🧾 Testimony of the Women

Most of the women mentioned in the episode, including Lucy Walker, Helen Mar Kimball, Mary Elizabeth Rollins, and Zina Huntington, later testified publicly that their marriages were consensual, spiritual, and rooted in personal revelation. Lucy Walker wrote that after a personal struggle, she had a confirming spiritual experience:

“My soul was filled with a calm, sweet peace that I never knew before… I had a testimony for myself.” – Lucy Walker Autobiography

Helen Mar Kimball acknowledged the difficulty of the principle, but wrote of her trust in her father and her belief that Joseph was acting under divine direction (see her writings in Women of Mormondom and Hales, Joseph Smith’s Polygamy, Vol. 2, pp. 356–364).

To ignore or reinterpret these testimonies as purely coercive dismisses the actual experiences and religious convictions of these women — a double standard not typically applied to male pioneers of the same era.

📜 Late, Unverified, or Unbalanced Sources

Key accusations in the podcast rely heavily on retrospective affidavits or thirdhand summaries from decades after the events (e.g., Martha Brotherton, William Law). Martha’s affidavit, used to frame Joseph as physically coercive, was published by apostate John C. Bennett in History of the Saints (1842) — a highly polemical source. Even hostile contemporaries like Hyrum Smith and others noted contradictions in Brotherton’s story and that she changed her account (JSP, Church History Library, Minutes, 1842).

Other sources used include out-of-context diary snippets (e.g., William Clayton’s mentions of Flora Woodworth) that do not establish abuse or sexual intent (Hales, Vol. 1, pp. 405–415). Even Clayton’s own diary simply notes visits and gifts — not sexual acts or coercion.

👼 “Angel with the Drawn Sword” and Coercion

The angelic visitation motif (used by Joseph in his explanation of polygamy) is interpreted in the podcast as spiritual blackmail. But this ignores the religious logic of Joseph Smith’s worldview. The “angel with the drawn sword” appears years after he had already begun plural marriage, and was used to emphasize the divine urgency, not manipulate individual women.

As Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner testified: “He [Joseph] told me that he was afraid when the angel appeared to him three times and threatened to slay him if he did not go into plural marriage” (Lightner, 1905 address, cited in Hales, Vol. 1, p. 208).

This was not a line used individually to coerce women, but a private justification for the commandment’s divine origin. Most women, like Zina Huntington, agreed voluntarily after independent spiritual seeking (see Bushman, pp. 440–442).

🔐 Secrecy and Social Protection

The podcast equates Joseph’s denials of polygamy with manipulative secrecy. But denial was strategic. Polygamy in 1840s Illinois risked legal prosecution and mob violence. Brigham Young and other early leaders reported threats and violence even before public announcements. Keeping plural marriage secret was as much about protection as it was doctrine (see JSP, Nauvoo Legal Records, and Hales, Vol. 1, pp. 378–390).

📚 Sources

Mormon Stories Throwing Around The Term Cult Is Dishonest

Mormon Stories Throwing Around The Term Cult Is Dishonest

Okay, real talk. Let’s clear something up.”

Mormon Stories loves to throw around the word cult when talking about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But let’s be honest—that’s not just wrong, it’s lazy.”

Cults trap people. The Church? You can leave. You can come back if you want. And transparency? The Church literally puts everything online—its teachings, financials, policies. Try finding that in an actual cult.”

It teaches you to get educated, be kind, serve your neighbors, and build strong families.

Mormon Stories Calling the Church a a cult constantly, is just emotionally loaded and intellectually cheap. Real cults don’t encourage you to think, grow, and love deeper. This one does.”

So if you’re out here trying to understand faith or just looking for through, don’t settle for slurs.

 

Did Joseph Smith Use Secret Knowledge to Control His Followers?

Did Joseph Smith Use Secret Knowledge to Control His Followers?

Did Joseph Smith Use Secret Knowledge to Control His Followers?

Claim: Joseph Smith claimed exclusive access to God, withheld evidence like the plates and seer stone, and used it to manipulate his followers.

Reality: Historical evidence shows that 11 official witnesses saw or handled the gold plates, and many were aware of Joseph’s use of the seer stone. The Church has openly acknowledged these tools today. Read the witness testimonies here.

Prophetic authority, like that claimed by Joseph Smith, is consistent with biblical precedent. Leaders such as Moses, Elijah, and Paul also spoke as conduits of divine will, often calling for obedience through their revelations.

“By their fruits ye shall know them.” — Matthew 7:16

Joseph Smith’s revelations were often public and recorded by scribes, later published in the Doctrine and Covenants—a pattern that reflects transparency, not manipulation.

Conclusion: The accusation that Joseph Smith used secrecy and withheld evidence to control his followers is not only incomplete, but deeply misleading when weighed against the historical record.